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FYI.....DEA checking into Fina purchases

Burgboy

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Animal posted that the DEA is looking into purchases from V**A******

Looks like the good old days may be coming to an end
 
He did not say.....I don't think there will be any problems with a few orders....they will probably look at volume and quantity would be my guess
 
Shit! I just ordered some last week! Does that mean the DEA is going to come knocking at my door??

-Spidey
 
If this is true then you can thank the fucking idiots who come on here almost daily and post openly about buying it online..

There's a reason for the "no sources" rule..
 
They can't do shit...it's legal to purchase the kit and the pellets, just illegal to convert it...if they come to the door, tell the to get fucked because your cow is sleeping in the basement!!
 
yea....I don't think us guys will get fucked.....but in the long run they may "control" purchases....which would suck!
 
yep

they are having some issues down in Miami. The last time I order from them the box had been ripped open to see the contents. I still got it, but it was easy to see that someone had opened it.
 
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rj420 said:
they are having some issues down in Miami. The last time I order from them the box had been ripped open to see the contents. I still got it, but it was easy to see that someone had opened it.

Now thats interesting......I think the company in Miami could bitch....they are doing nothing illegal!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Think about this; if the DEA can support their case to the FDA and whomever else they need to convince that fina is being purchased by individuals other than the cattle ranchers guess what's going to happen. Fina is now on the controlled substances list. However politics play a major role and the cattlemans associations may still be able to line enough pockets to make sure this does not happen.

But for how long???
 
barbell265 said:
Think about this; if the DEA can support their case to the FDA and whomever else they need to convince that fina is being purchased by individuals other than the cattle ranchers guess what's going to happen. Fina is now on the controlled substances list. However politics play a major role and the cattlemans associations may still be able to line enough pockets to make sure this does not happen.

But for how long???

Good point bro! Farmers have strong political pull......the new farmers bill that was passed by congress and signed by bush this year is testament to that fact!
 
I mean dam

All the idiots that come to boards and say "I bought fina from such-n-such" or post legit sources should be banned!!!!!!

Second off, why waste resources on this? All they are going to get is somebody buying a cart of fucking fina. Now if someone buys 5000$ worth and is staying in an apartment that might throw a red flag, but tracking people buying a cart or 2 is just crazy.

Shouldn't this time and effort be spent on airport security not some dude looking to gain some muscle? I can feel safe that if some terrorist is ordering fina that is the only way they would get caught. LOL
 
I'm with Andy on this one, too many guys with big mouths are ruining it for everyone else, thank god I buy mine pre-made from powder
 
They are looking for BULK purchases(from non farm-related persons), for the obvious purpose of conversion & resale. If you are one of these people, my advice to you would be to have someone else order your Fina & then ANOTHER person order the kits. If the same person can be tied to mass purchases of BOTH, then there may be cause to investigate further. Other than that, I doubt they will take it much further as the guy who said that it aint illegal to posess is absolutely right, and they can't do jackshit about you having it even if you DON'T have a Cow in your backyard. Just tell 'em that Bessy had a stroke & you just finished her off with some A-1 sauce right before they came a knockin'!

Before you purchasing any Fina, you oughtta know your rights concerning the fact that posessing isn't illegal WHATSOEVER, and that the DEA or whoever can't do shit to you for having it!! They(law enforcement of any type) rely on the fact that you DO NOT & wont have any clue as to these rights when they come a knockin'. Here's one I bet you didnt know--If the Cops ever come to your house on suspicion of ANYTHING, NEVER leave the premises of your house, even if the Cops ask you to "step outside". You don't have to leave with them or even talk WORD ONE to them, unless they have a warrant of some type. IF YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE(even crossing the threshhold, and onto the front porch), a cop can re-enter the premises WITHOUT A WARRANT based on the 'suspicion" factor alone! Cops rely on the fact that you have no idea that you don't have to exit your house if they ask, and that more importantly you ALSO won't know that they can re-enter once you DO step accross the threshold of your front door.
 
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I disagree that they will be looking for people ordering mass quantities. Those people are probably legitimate cattle farmers. If you have a farm with 1000 beef cattle, you're going to be ordering a shitload of finaplix. It's the people ordering a box of ten doses I would find suspicious. That isn't enough to do jack with legitimately.

-Spidey
 
nah

a 5000$ order heading to a apt# is going to be noticed. I mean you order 5000$ worth of fina at a time and live in a apt in a big city.

Now wow, someone ordered a box of fina, why even bother. Its legal to have but as soon as you convert it there is the problem.

If you just have the pellets you could have been ordering for a buddy with a cow or 2.

I think its a difference between catching someone with pellets and catching someone with pellets, a kit and a syringe. Or catching someone with 5000$ worth of pellets and a fucking lab.

This is a kind of weird situation. The government usually goes after the dealers. Now they might hassle users to get dealers, but in this case the "dealers" are legit so where is ther big score?

I really think they are looking for indivduals that convert it and sell it. I highly doubt they would fuck with users.
 
Ha, actually there's nothing to worry about. At least...

If you've read that interview with Craig Titus

Message labeled. "Look at this shit:"There is no real Tren!""
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164437

"Trenbalone. Are you referring to all that useless yellow stuff people are making from melting down the pellets in oil and then selling it to a bunch of suckers? I seriously doubt that you or anyone else has any real trenbalone floating around. That drug has been long gone for years and years. You have a bunch of these so-called gurus melting down Finilplex Pellets (tren pellets designed to be injected into cattle) and mixing them in oil. All it takes is one idiot who is loaded up on test and this idiotic mix to say he's growing like never before and everyone will join in buying the stuff. Fact is that it's the testosterone that is working and not the so-called tren. My advice to you is to throw the crap out because it is useless! All these companies selling the shit were started from people trying to get rich, and they are. I've been laughing at this tren thing ever since Finilplex hit the scene about 6 years ago. There is no real Tren! "

SO really there's nothing to worry about. ;)
lol

Kro!
 
Zerxes said:
They are looking for BULK purchases(from non farm-related persons), for the obvious purpose of conversion & resale. If you are one of these people, my advice to you would be to have someone else order your Fina & then ANOTHER person order the kits. If the same person can be tied to mass purchases of BOTH, then there may be cause to investigate further. Other than that, I doubt they will take it much further as the guy who said that it aint illegal to posess is absolutely right, and they can't do jackshit about you having it even if you DON'T have a Cow in your backyard. Just tell 'em that Bessy had a stroke & you just finished her off with some A-1 sauce right before they came a knockin'!

Before you purchasing any Fina, you oughtta know your rights concerning the fact that posessing isn't illegal WHATSOEVER, and that the DEA or whoever can't do shit to you for having it!! They(law enforcement of any type) rely on the fact that you DO NOT & wont have any clue as to these rights when they come a knockin'. Here's one I bet you didnt know--If the Cops ever come to your house on suspicion of ANYTHING, NEVER leave the premises of your house, even if the Cops ask you to "step outside". You don't have to leave with them or even talk WORD ONE to them, unless they have a warrant of some type. IF YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE(even crossing the threshhold, and onto the front porch), a cop can re-enter the premises WITHOUT A WARRANT based on the 'suspicion" factor alone! Cops rely on the fact that you have no idea that you don't have to exit your house if they ask, and that more

importantly you ALSO won't know that they can re-enter once you DO step accross the
threshold of your front door.


Very interesting!!
 
Burgboy said:
yea....I don't think us guys will get fucked.....but in the long run they may "control" purchases....which would suck!

And they can sure "control" purchases in a big way. The first thing they would do (if anything) is red-flag large orders. No, the feds wont come knocking at your door for buying a cart. Hand in hand with this would be the feds leaning upon companies that sell this stuff to be more descriminative to who they sell to.

Finally, they could force companies to ONLY sell TA/E2 pellets which would eliminate all but those who have the balls to try to remove the estrogen...
 
This already goes on to a certain extent. All implant purchases must be documented and forwarded to the Dept. of Ag. and FDA. by retailers. This has always been the case. And the possibility of inspectors showing up to see your herd has always been there. Not for the reasons discussed here, but to insure that implants are being used at approriate times prior to slaughter. If one buys fina, it is presumed that you own feedlot heifers.
One of the biggest implant catalogue dealers, Omaha Vaccine Co., now requires proof of ownership of cattle (bill of sale) before they will ship. Look for federal pressure to come in this manner.

I'm as guilty as anyone here, but I think it's time to treat implant posts in the same fashion that we treat source posts.
 
ironmaster said:
This already goes on to a certain extent. All implant purchases must be documented and forwarded to the Dept. of Ag. and FDA. by retailers. This has always been the case. And the possibility of inspectors showing up to see your herd has always been there. Not for the reasons discussed here, but to insure that implants are being used at approriate times prior to slaughter. If one buys fina, it is presumed that you own feedlot heifers.
One of the biggest implant catalogue dealers, Omaha Vaccine Co., now requires proof of ownership of cattle (bill of sale) before they will ship. Look for federal pressure to come in this manner.

I'm as guilty as anyone here, but I think it's time to treat implant posts in the same fashion that we treat source posts.

Well therin lies your loophole brother. I mean, how hard could it be to forge a friggin bill of sale for a cow anyhow. My old man used to buy a slaughtered cow once per year, and it was all sliced & diced up nicely into several pounds of Hamburger Meat, T-Bones, Round Steaks, and the works! I wonder if dead Cows would count?!:D
 
They can suck me raw,, we need to de-power the Federal Govt.
It is out of control and does not serve us anymore, it preys upon us and steals from us.

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