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Fuck your military and man up speeches

Thread title fail, it should read, Fuck Yo Military
 
ololololololol
 
It's sad but this just proves how our country/goverment does not care for our verterans. Use them till they do not need them any more or they become to much of a problem and then just dispose of them. unfortunalty this happens all to often. sad sad sad
 
at least someone read it and commented

worst part about the whole thing was they gave him medication that essentially put him over the edge then imprisoned him w/o treatment for it when he went over the edge.
 
at least someone read it and commented

worst part about the whole thing was they gave him medication that essentially put him over the edge then imprisoned him w/o treatment for it when he went over the edge.


My sister is a wounded Iraq veteran and now works with the wounded warrior program. It's absolutely disgusting how they just discard them No help no nothing..it infuriates me. The VA hospitals are absolutely no help in any way what so ever. They are filthy and filled with Dr's and nurses that don't give 2 shits because they don't believe that we belong fighting the war...but they fail to realize is that it's not the soldiers decision to be over there. they are doing their job.
 
What did they give him?

the real question is ...what didn't they give him...they probably pumped him full of drugs that either didn't have any effect on his condition OR worked against other drugs that he was getting, either way I guarantee he was a guinea pig for them. since you sign away any rights you have to the govt when you enlist.
 
What did they give him?

from the article
this was part of it

"When he was diagnosed with PTSD, he was prescribed the anti-depressant drug Paxil and the anti-anxiety drug Trazadone, on top of the anti-anxiety, ADD and sleep medicines he was already taking.

Food and Drug Administration guidelines say Paxil should not be mixed with Trazadone or Sasse's ADD drug, Adderall, because the interaction can cause a variety of side effects including confusion and hallucination."

another part of the article mentions seroquel and something else
I still don't understand why seroquel is given to pretty much anyone in the service with sleep issues of any kind
 
My sister is a wounded Iraq veteran and now works with the wounded warrior program. It's absolutely disgusting how they just discard them No help no nothing..it infuriates me. The VA hospitals are absolutely no help in any way what so ever. They are filthy and filled with Dr's and nurses that don't give 2 shits because they don't believe that we belong fighting the war...but they fail to realize is that it's not the soldiers decision to be over there. they are doing their job.

ya, I was trying to explain how va hospitals work, how the military hospitals work...we get almost monthly notifications if you were at this clinic or that clinic between the dates of whatever or whatever you may have been exposed to hiv or hep b because of improper sterilization.
Its like holy fuck buy new autoclaves for god sakes
 
My sister is a wounded Iraq veteran and now works with the wounded warrior program. It's absolutely disgusting how they just discard them No help no nothing..it infuriates me. The VA hospitals are absolutely no help in any way what so ever. They are filthy and filled with Dr's and nurses that don't give 2 shits because they don't believe that we belong fighting the war...but they fail to realize is that it's not the soldiers decision to be over there. they are doing their job.

Let me explain to you what the military has become in this country before you go dishing out yo sympathies to every wounded so called warrior you see. Lots of enlisted people are just shit bags looking for a free ride these days. Bunch a poosie losers who cant make it in the real world, so they let the goverment take care of them. Yea fucking Real Talk. Bunch of multiracial wellfare searching for shit bags. Fucking juvy delinquiets and future fuck ups. I say this as somebody who was wonded two times in the field serving my country. I didn't come back looking for fucking sympathy or a free ride. Nobody owed me anything because when you fight wars mutha fuckers get shot and blowed up. That's life. We have a damn plague of fucking moochers with back problems, and various other bullshit made up crap, post traumatic bull shit pussy ass faggot disorders and any other thing you can think of going on with so called vets these days. Marines are the only ones who do any real shit so they should be the only ones the goverment gives a fuck about anyways. Fuck ditch diggers and supply toting mutha fuckers need not apply. Now real soliders who sustain real injuries should be given the best fucking care the US has to offer. Baleee Dat. If you sprain your ankle bringing me more bullets, go fuck yourself. Real talk
 
Let me explain to you what the military has become in this country before you go dishing out yo sympathies to every wounded so called warrior you see. Lots of enlisted people are just shit bags looking for a free ride these days. Bunch a poosie losers who cant make it in the real world, so they let the goverment take care of them. Yea fucking Real Talk. Bunch of multiracial wellfare searching for shit bags. Fucking juvy delinquiets and future fuck ups. I say this as somebody who was wonded two times in the field serving my country. I didn't come back looking for fucking sympathy or a free ride. Nobody owed me anything because when you fight wars mutha fuckers get shot and blowed up. That's life. We have a damn plague of fucking moochers with back problems, and various other bullshit made up crap, post traumatic bull shit pussy ass faggot disorders and any other thing you can think of going on with so called vets these days. Marines are the only ones who do any real shit so they should be the only ones the goverment gives a fuck about anyways. Fuck ditch diggers and supply toting mutha fuckers need not apply. Now real soliders who sustain real injuries should be given the best fucking care the US has to offer. Baleee Dat. If you sprain your ankle bringing me more bullets, go fuck yourself. Real talk


Strong I could not agree with you more! and my heart does not go out to all wounded warriors I know all about that crap. What I dislike are situations like the one Shirlz linked. I was not defending every mofo that cries wolf and FYI my sister was a Marine and that is the only branch I give huge credit to. I wish I had bigger balls to join the Marines I just do not agree with how they own your ass for life.
 
from the article
this was part of it

"When he was diagnosed with PTSD, he was prescribed the anti-depressant drug Paxil and the anti-anxiety drug Trazadone, on top of the anti-anxiety, ADD and sleep medicines he was already taking.

Food and Drug Administration guidelines say Paxil should not be mixed with Trazadone or Sasse's ADD drug, Adderall, because the interaction can cause a variety of side effects including confusion and hallucination."

another part of the article mentions seroquel and something else
I still don't understand why seroquel is given to pretty much anyone in the service with sleep issues of any kind

Agreed.
 
Strong I could not agree with you more! and my heart does not go out to all wounded warriors I know all about that crap. What I dislike are situations like the one Shirlz linked. I was not defending every mofo that cries wolf and FYI my sister was a Marine and that is the only branch I give huge credit to. I wish I had bigger balls to join the Marines I just do not agree with how they own your ass for life.

Hey bro beans I wasn't jumping down your throat or anything just used your post to quote my reply. Crying Wolf is a very good way to put it. It's an epidemic really. Know a guy who claimed 5 years after he was back that a sprained ankle he got on a supply line in Iraq had made him disabled. He got tired of working and now our goverment pays his way. I'd shoot the mutha fucker in the head if I got half a chance. I've killed far better people over there in my opinion.
 
I know plenty of blokes in my unit that have done several arduous tours in hot sandy places that didn't feel the need to assault their wives, but hey ho.
 
my battle buddy in basic was someone that enlisted higher than fuck on heroine..I still have no fricken idea how she got through MEPS. She detoxed in basic which could have easily killed her. The drill sergeants hated her so much they made sure she had boots two sizes too small. Part of her heel was amputated from the necrotic tissue. Know what? She made it through basic and was a tough little bitch. She stayed clean and made it to her duty station, where they kicked her out for having been a former drug addict.
The military doesn't make any kind of fucking sense.
 
I know plenty of blokes in my unit that have done several arduous tours in hot sandy places that didn't feel the need to assault their wives, but hey ho.

Did they have traumatic brain injuries? or are we just going to focus on the mental health aspect of it and ignore the physical aspect of it.
 
This timeline is really stellar

"At an intake exam June 13, a therapist said Sasse was anxious and angry, "rubbing the back of his neck throughout the interview and eye contact was minimal."

On June 19, another psychologist noted the soldier had "anxiety with persistent worry, with difficulty breathing at times due to panic."

On June 20, Sasse started daily treatment, which included group therapy and classes that taught "relaxation through meditative practice," records show. But, he said, the meditation triggered flashbacks that made him feel worse.

On June 21, he told his psychologist the therapy was "a waste of time." Records show the Army then doubled his dose of the contraindicated drugs."
 
You can thank all of the fucks that are trying to cash in on Uncle Sug with B.S. PTSD claims

I know a few of them
 
yeah, I unfortunately know the other side of the coin too...with far more obvious trauma in conjuction with ptsd

a guy that got his skull caved in, lost an eye and an arm....took him 4 years to get disability and he's never officially been rated for the tbi...i mean..his effin skull was crushed in.
 
Money making machine is what it is, for all the pharm companies and varoius programs. Been involved in and saw some serious shit myself, never asked for nothing, but BAS want to push up on u that something is wrong and that u need help. The legtitmate injuries are one thing but the shitbags that jump on board and want a free handout as long as they say this and do this for the DR., help to make all this BS possible. Half of them do this just to get out of their enlistment.

Strongbow dead on there.
 
my battle buddy in basic was someone that enlisted higher than fuck on heroine..I still have no fricken idea how she got through MEPS. She detoxed in basic which could have easily killed her. The drill sergeants hated her so much they made sure she had boots two sizes too small. Part of her heel was amputated from the necrotic tissue. Know what? She made it through basic and was a tough little bitch. She stayed clean and made it to her duty station, where they kicked her out for having been a former drug addict.
The military doesn't make any kind of fucking sense.

You can't die from opiate withdrawal there, buddy.
 
You can't die from opiate withdrawal there, buddy.

directly no, but the constant vomiting while in basic, forced through physical exertion that went untreated in a SC summer...I'm betting yes.
 
sad really.. I'm diagnosed with tbi as part of my medical retirement... but the anger issues never really leave you, you have to learn to cope with it..
 
directly no, but the constant vomiting while in basic, forced through physical exertion that went untreated in a SC summer...I'm betting yes.

You'd just wish you were dead in that situation. If it was bars of xannies or a gallon of booze a day she was using then she could die.

I'm surprised she didn't shit herself daily for the first couple of weeks.
 
If she were shitting and vomiting AND doing harsh basic training stuff she could get hypokalemic enough to suffer an arrhythmia and if not treated soon (ie some asshole drill instructor) she could have an MI. Again from a constellation of circumstances.
 
You'd just wish you were dead in that situation. If it was bars of xannies or a gallon of booze a day she was using then she could die.

I'm surprised she didn't shit herself daily for the first couple of weeks.

She did shit herself pretty regularly. It wasn't pretty scene all the way around and for whatever reason , likely because she was a weak link in the herd, she was pretty heavily targeted by drill sgts. I was paired up with her because they had to have a reason to target me for coming in as an E4 rather than an E-nothing (you take responsibility for you battle buddies actions and performance).

I also seriously doubt heroin was her only vice though it could have been. Her arms and ankles were just a huge network of scars. It was my first experience with real honest to god track marks.

It killed me that she was really an incredibly nice person with serious determination once she was clean and they just threw her away. I lost touch with her about a year after she was out. I always wondered how she fared.
 
She did shit herself pretty regularly. It wasn't pretty scene all the way around and for whatever reason , likely because she was a week link in the herd, she was pretty heavily targeted by drill sgts. I was paired up with her because they had to have a reason to target me for coming in as an E4 rather than an E-nothing (you take responsibility for you battle buddies actions and performance).

I also seriously doubt heroine was her only vice though it could have been. Her arms and ankles were just a huge network of scars. It was my first experience with real honest to god track marks.

It killed me that she was really an incredibly nice person with serious determination once she was clean and they just threw her away. I lost touch with her about a year after she was out. I always wondered how she fared.

"weak" "heroin"

She's dead now. I can almost guarantee it.

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fail!

fixed..

the part of my brain that doesn't edit while index finger typing
 
"weak" "heroin"

She's dead now. I can almost guarantee it.

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yeah, it really wouldnt surprise me if she was.


she had an autistic son that her mother had custody of..I know she had a baby girl shortly after getting out with no immediate baby daddy
 
It will only be a matter of time before actual soldiers are replaced by robotics. Then the whole game changes.
 
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