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Swiftme
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fuck hamilton too, why the fuck did he let him shoot it
anyone watch the game?
anyone watch the game?
string_bean00
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I watched it. I'm so depressed. I could weep. 
RaZor Ramon
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C'mon the Lakers are slackers but they are too much for the Pistons. That's why they'll win in 6 instead of sweep.
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Swiftme
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nah, ben was being so beastly out there
billups blew it so many times and another problem was kobe
no one solid enaugh to guard him. If pistons had someone like doug christie theyd be set
billups blew it so many times and another problem was kobe
no one solid enaugh to guard him. If pistons had someone like doug christie theyd be set
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Swiftme
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god damn they shoulda drafted melo
canadianhitman
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I love it...even when the Lakers take long stretches of the game off and slack, they still win.
MaGilicuti
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i can't stand the lakers. hamilton couldn't hit key shots
canadianhitman
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Kobe and Shaq....they'll keep dominating too. The rest of the Lakers merely have to be competent, and they'll win from here on out.
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Swiftme
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not in detroit
I hope
I hope
canadianhitman
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It doesn't matter if the game is in Detroit....unless you got a time machine and can grab Isiah Thomas and Bill Laimbeer from 1989, the Piston's ain't gonna win.
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Swiftme
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technically there is a chance
kobe just got lucky cause hamilton backed off hopin he wouldnt make that one, they had the game in the pocket though except few minor mistakes that can be corrected like all those bricked layups by billups
kobe just got lucky cause hamilton backed off hopin he wouldnt make that one, they had the game in the pocket though except few minor mistakes that can be corrected like all those bricked layups by billups
Kobe is the best in the game. No one is even close.
No one else since Jordan has dominated playoffs like that. And Kobe is only 25. MJ was 30 when he first won.
No one else since Jordan has dominated playoffs like that. And Kobe is only 25. MJ was 30 when he first won.
MissJanet79
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Thou shall never compareth MJ to Kobe!!MattTheSkywalker said:
Kobe is w/out a doubt a great player...however he is no Jordan. I've watched him try to stick his tongue out like Jordan when he shoots - I'm like SWEETHEART, You're NOT Jordan! LOL
MissJanet79 said:Thou shall never compareth MJ to Kobe!!
Kobe is w/out a doubt a great player...however he is no Jordan. I've watched him try to stick his tongue out like Jordan when he shoots - I'm like SWEETHEART, You're NOT Jordan! LOL
If you compare the two of them at age 25, Kobe is actually much much better at that age...The question is, will it continue? Or will the Lakers break up and send Kobe elsewhere?
nugga
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bluepeter said:
not to mention that jordan actually had a presence among his teammates.. was able to bring out the best in them.. sure they might not have gotten along with him or liked him all the times, but they definitely respected him. i don't think any of lakers hold any where near such respect for kobe.. nor will they actually work FOR him.
MissJanet79
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I HEARD THAT!!!!!!!!! JORDAN - LIKE NO OTHER!
I'm just glad that I was able to witness it all - b/c we watched a LEGEND... a true athlete w/ so much heart! One of the best athletes of all time!
I'm just glad that I was able to witness it all - b/c we watched a LEGEND... a true athlete w/ so much heart! One of the best athletes of all time!
bluepeter said:
Do you think the presence of the 'stiffs' just MIGHT....maybe...a little bit....be the reason Jordan took more shots and scored more points?
As far as a presence among teammates....I guess it depends what you call a 'presence'. Both of them get the ball late in the game and take/make the big shots, so they have that "presence".
When Jordan was 25, he was more Tracy McGrady than Kobe...lots of shots, lots of points, lots of highlights...
bluepeter
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Fair enough Matt but if you want to talk more shots, notice the shooting percentage? Kobe shot 44% and gets more open looks than any other upper echelon player in the league due to Shaq's presence. Jordan shot 54% while being triple teamed.
As for Kobe taking and making big clutch shots, yes he made the one last night but he's shooting 14% from 3 in the fourth quarter during the playoffs and he clanged several last night before his prayer went in. That ain't clutch.
Fast Twitch Fiber
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Damn, I just looked at Jordan's career stats. I had forgotten just how damn good he was. He shot nearly 50% over his whole career while averaging 30.1 points.
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Agreed...MJ is the best ever. On top of that, a multi-award winner of the defensive player of the year too.
Kobe can be better. It depends if he has the heart. he has the tools though.
MattTheSkywalker said:
he does have the talent... but I think the heart (and leadership skills working with teammates) are lacking...
I just can't stand the sports guys on his jock about "what a transcended player he is" and crap like that... why don't they just say they want the lakers to win?
slickdadd
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Kobe is a truly amazing player. Some players are good and even great, but damn, Kobe is really amazing sometimes. I definitely agree with the MJ comparisons, while he does have to do it his entire career for them to be valid. But as for now, and more like as for the past few years, Kobe is THE best player in the league. If you argue with that you really don't watch the game. Tim Duncan is very very good, but he still isn't on Kobe's level. No on in the league is. This guy does it on both ends of the floor, in many categories, is as clutch as it gets, and throughout all of the Laker playoff runs has played HUGE in key/late situations. An awesome player. Don't hate him, enjoy watching him play. I sure do. I just wish he was on my team.
supersizeme
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MattTheSkywalker said:
I think we can safely lay the Kobe/Jordan comparisons to rest after his performance in the finals.
supersizeme said:I think we can safely lay the Kobe/Jordan comparisons to rest after his performance in the finals.
Coulda laid them to rest before too. Kobe is the best TODAY...where he goes from here is up to him.
Post up MJ's numbers vs the Pistons in the playoffs when Detroit was urinating on everyone under Chuck Daly.
Or better yet, don't, because when MJ was 25, he was two months into his golf game around this time of year.Yeeaaaahhhhhh!
At least when MJ was fucking white girls on the side he was smart enough to pay them to shut their mouths.
supersizeme
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I would try to retort, but I really have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't know anything about basketball. I read that on another board and thought it would make me look cool to parrot it and ruffle your feathers.
bluepeter
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MattTheSkywalker said:Coulda laid them to rest before too. Kobe is the best TODAY...where he goes from here is up to him.
Post up MJ's numbers vs the Pistons in the playoffs when Detroit was urinating on everyone under Chuck Daly.
Yeeaaaahhhhhh!
At least when MJ was fucking white girls on the side he was smart enough to pay them to shut their mouths.
OK, here ya go:
87-88 10 138-260 .531 86-99 .869 1-3 .333 71 47 36.3
88-89 17 199-390 .510 183-229 .799 10-35 .286 119 130 34.8
89-90 16 219-426 .514 133-159 .836 16-50 .320 115 109 36.7
I forget which years they played the Pistons specifically, I believe it was 88-89 and 89-90 that they lost to them. So Mr. Jordan over those 2 playoffs averaged around 51% from the field, 35 points per game, 7 rebounds per game and 7 assists per game. Kobe Bryant creams in his pants every day looking at stats like that.
Here are his career playoff totals:
49% from the field, 6.4 rebounds, 5.7 assists, 2.1 steals and 33.4 points per game. Refer to my Kobe creaming comment above
wow, you actually looked it up.
what can I say? Jordan was better.
what can I say? Jordan was better.
havoc said:
you're half right.
The NBA is in a sad state of affairs: 30 players and 300 practice players.
bluepeter
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MattTheSkywalker said:you're half right.
The NBA is in a sad state of affairs: 30 players and 300 practice players.
I don't know Matt, depends on the definition of best player. I always go by who I would rather build my team around and Kobe would definitely not be number 1. I'd take Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Mcgrady etc. over him.
If it's pure talent/skills, I'd still take a few of the guys listed above before him.
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