Frustrated in Mass.

[TLSrider]

Well I guess I just didn't realize how complicated this whole A.S. thing really is. I dont want to sound to naive but I guess I thought that it would be just a matter of deciding that yes I want to try it. Explaining what I was looking for, for example, 5 - 10 lbs more of muscle. Then some one saying ok, this is your first time, I recommend such and such, this is how you take it, this is how you can get it and good luck. But instead, after reading this board for about a month now, I can say that I am more confused than anything else. I could probably read this board for another year and still not know what you guys are talking about. Am I impatient, HELL YEAH!!!!! I've thought about this for a couple of years now. I'm ready. My only other option is to try and strike up some a.s. conversations with guys at my gym and see what they're into. If I do have any luck, I would definately post what I was told to take and how, hopefully you guys can tell me if I was pointed in the right direction. Dont get me wrong, I understand you guys have your ways of doing things and I respect that. But think back to when you were in my shoes, I bet you were a little anxious to get started too. So I will be hanging around trying to learn from you guys, but I am ready to get my feet wet. Later.

 

[G-Force]

If you have been training for years but have never done any gear any cycle even with mild steroids should give you those sort of gains!

 

[droid]

Need more info like stats and drugs available and how nuch of them can you afford. Then we may be able to get you going in the right direction.

 

[Ryvor]

Most of the guys in the gym are idiots. Except for the ones that post here
Really, you should do alot more research on your own and come up with you own decision on what you want and what you need. We'll be here to help.

 

[getbig27]

tlsrider----this is what i did. i would read the various posts and i like you did not know what the hell drugs were and what they did every time someone mentioned one. so i started writing down products i saw. then i would go to www.anabolex.com and www.anabolicreview.com basically these sites give you information on the various products being used. so you find the product you are wondering about then you read up on it and think of questions you can ask on the board pertaining to that particular product. all you are doing is educating yourself but it takes foot work and you gotta be here reading and posting every day to stay on top of this shit....at least thats what i did. so for example when i saw the word oxandrolone i looked it up and it didnt sound scary or harsh. i started asking around and looking at older posts on the product and DISCOVERED ITS SOME GOOD SHIT TO GAIN STRENGTH AND SIZE. so i went out placed my first order and guess what.........no fukin strength increase at all but i gained 10lbs of hard asss muscle and i'll take that over strength any day.

bottom line is no one is going to give you all this info in an easy to read format. get a binder like i did and everytime you find something about AS that you didnt know make an entry into your binder. print out the various AS effectiveness charts and treat these lessons the same way you would a college education. you get out what you put in.

good luck bro.

 

[G-Force]

That's good advice from getbig, I did the same thing I started a ring binder which is now full to the brim with priceless info and in less than a year I am now more knowledgeable than some guys I know that have been at this game for years!
Getbig did you really put on 10lbs of muscle without ANY gains in strength or just a relatively small increase???

 

[Zyglamail]

In my opionion if you dont know what it does, how it does it and why it does it, you shouldnt be using it. That being said, as allready mentioned, hit the profile sites and become intimatly familiar with the product names for starters. Take dosing with a grain of salt, because that is very individual and many of the profiles are way out dated. Once you have the vocabulary down, undertsand the basics of the endocrine system then you have something to work with and once it all makes sense you dont really need anyone to tell you what they think, you just need to read threads, accumulate the info and you will have what you need to make a well formed decision of your own.

 

[getbig27]

g-force---im a competitive bodybuilder so i could care less how much i bench and squat etc.. but i said hey i can put on some size and a side benefit will be a nice strenght gain. after 5 weeks of use absolutely nada....but i slowly put on 10lbs in that time bro. and when i tell you i was hard ......i was hard....i guess AS doesnt affect everyone the same.

but heck that was 25lbs ago!!!!