frontloading

[Spidey]

OK, I know there was a post last year sometime called "frontloading made easy". I would do a proper search but can't because I'm not platinum . Maybe one of you platinum people could post a link to that thread for me?

I was playing around with a steroid calculator (from skepticore) and trying to find ways to keep levels of test cyp (for example) steady from week one through eight. I found that if I plugged in a frontload of 3 times the weekly dose, the levels are steady as a rock all the way across. Now, that means a frontload of 1500 mg week 1 and 500 mg ew after that. Isn't that too much all at once to be safe? What if I was talking about tren cyp at 350 mg ew? That would mean a frontload of 1050mg tren cyp on week one! That seems a little scary to me.

I know some of you frontload. What do you think is the best way to do that?

 

[psychedout]

To me frontloading is a little iffy. I'm not saying it doesn't work.

But I also don't like the idea of doubling or tripling my dose for the first few weeks.

Instead, I would just kickstart things with an oral.

 

[Spidey]

Not tripling the dose for a few weeks; just the first week.

 

[psychedout]

Still seems crazy too me... Even though lots of people do it.

 

[gretak911]

I like the idea of a front load but I've yet to try it. The way I understand it, it makes more sence to front load the longer acting exters than the shorter ones ie. tren. I also agree that over a gram a tren a week seems like a recipe for disaster. But if anyone want to try it, I'd love to hear all about it.

 

[FBodyGuy]

I hear people have the same results with/without frontloading. I have never tried it though...so I can't say for sure.
Could be a waste of gear. I just kickstart my cycle with dbol... works great.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

I frontloaded my EQ last time around, but for me it was only like 600mg for the first 2weeks, then 500mg for 2 weeks, then 400mg for 4 weeks...BOLD200 I was pleased.

It was stacked with primo200mg ew for the last 6 weeks & sustanon250 for the first six weks. It was a good 8 weeker and I saw good strength gains, and some size. The EQ was frontloaded, but not everything else...everything else was steady consistent dose.

I continued a strcit workout during the off period + clomid. I kept most everything I gained. For me this was a nice intermediate cycle with fairly low doses.

 

[Spidey]

I like the idea of a front load but I've yet to try it. The way I understand it, it makes more sence to front load the longer acting exters than the shorter ones ie. tren. I also agree that over a gram a tren a week seems like a recipe for disaster. But if anyone want to try it, I'd love to hear all about it.

The tren I am referring to is tren cyp (a longer acting ester on par with test cyp), not fina (tren acetate).

 

[Shinobi]

Before I frontloaded for the first time(and was the first and last) I read here on EF that some people got fever after froantloading and happened to me to. I frontload 1gr of sus and I wont do it again... I prefer to see gains slowly from now on...leaving and learning

 

[Andy13]

OK, I know there was a post last year sometime called "frontloading made easy". I would do a proper search but can't because I'm not platinum . Maybe one of you platinum people could post a link to that thread for me?

I was playing around with a steroid calculator (from skepticore) and trying to find ways to keep levels of test cyp (for example) steady from week one through eight. I found that if I plugged in a frontload of 3 times the weekly dose, the levels are steady as a rock all the way across. Now, that means a frontload of 1500 mg week 1 and 500 mg ew after that. Isn't that too much all at once to be safe? What if I was talking about tren cyp at 350 mg ew? That would mean a frontload of 1050mg tren cyp on week one! That seems a little scary to me.

I know some of you frontload. What do you think is the best way to do that?

To clarify-

Front loading has no bearing on blood-androgen stability during the cycle.. Exp decay (or whatever) calculations are incorrect if they show otherwise. The concept of the frontload is to jump your blood levels up to, but NOT OVER mean theraputic blood level, which are experienced during the cycle.

As a pioneer in Androgen-Dosing Numerical Theory, my opinion is that you should double your weekly dose of cyp and take in over day 1 and 3, then fall to your normal, 2x/week dosing scheme on day 5.

Andy

 

[bigrand]

EQ.....800mg week 1 (mon and thurs)
400mg week 2-8 (mon and thurs)?
Winny throughout...50mg/day

 

[Spidey]

Thanks everyone.

Andy - I was not referring to blood-androgen stability per se. Like I said, I was just fooling around with numbers and a front load of 3x the weekly dose on week one shot the levels up to 55 mg to 60 mg ester used ed and this level was predicted to remain virtually constant for the rest of the cycle. Instead of the level slowly rising and then decreasing to create a peak when graphed, the levels shot up to a plateau on day one which was flat all the way across until cessation of injections, when of course it decreased exponentially.

To clarify: your advise for a 500 mg ew dosage would be to shoot 500 mg on Monday and 500 mg on Wednesday of week 1 and then fall back to 250 mg twice ew for the rest, right?
Bigrand appears to concur.