Frontload or not?

[JAWBREAKER]

Researching hardcore here for my first cycle and was wondering if I should frontload my Test Cyp? I was planning on running it for 10 weeks at 600mgs a week. If I was to frontload it what should the first week dosage be? Also I was planning on running Deca in my cycle for 400mgs a week for 8 weeks. Should I run the Deca for 8 weeks or say fuck it and just run it all the way with the Test for the full 10. I'm also going to be running D-bol also from weeks 1-5 at 30-40mgs a day. I have access to Winny and wanted to take it wks. 6-10 at 50mgs. a day to harden up and fight gyno from the Deca but didn't know if it would be to harsh on my liver from the D-bol. Give me your opinions bro's- I need your expert advice. THANX

 

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bump-er-uni

 

[Andy13]

I highly recomend armidex when using test and deca especially when winstrol is used since this will lead to even more dominance of the AR by deca.

The deca should definetly by loaded. I recomend (at least) a 2x load on the first day. This will have a tremendous effect on the overall effectivness of your cycle.

Loading the cyp is beneficial, but not nearly as beneficial as loading the deca.

Take the cyp shots twice a week.

Andy

 

[genarr3]

Andy13
I'm planning a similar cycle He has a total of 3200mg of deca. And just wanted to clarify something. Are you saying the deca part of his cycle go something like this:
Week1 800mg
Week2 600mg
Week3 300mg
Week4 300mg
Week5 300mg
Week6 300mg
Week7 300 mg
Week8 300mg
The reason I choose these numbers is they are they worked out mathematically i.e. no floating-point numbers.

I personally am planning a deca/cyp cycle with much lower doses.
300mg deca / 400mg cyp a week over 10 weeks. I respond well to low doses. However you seem to adamant on the point of front loading the deca. Is this just for quicker results? Or overall gains?
I'm doing no Dbol. Have Nolvadex on hand, and will have winny on had in case of gyno from the deca (although I don't think I'm prone to it). I don't plan on using winny unless needed. Is it absolutely necessary for me to use Armidex? That stuff will cost me more the all the gear put together. If it's just for water retention, I'll fight that naturally.
Genarr3

 

[Ryvor]

Andy13, I'm about to start a cycle in a few weeks of Deca, Win and Equi. I don't have Armidex but i have nolvadex. Will that be okay for the AR? Someone also posted that Win will take care of the Gyno problem that comes from the deca. You got any input on that?

 

[genarr3]

bump

 

[Andy13]

Andy13, I'm about to start a cycle in a few weeks of Deca, Win and Equi. I don't have Armidex but i have nolvadex. Will that be okay for the AR? Someone also posted that Win will take care of the Gyno problem that comes from the deca. You got any input on that?

You can add nolva to that cycle. I'm not sure if it will be absolutely necessary or not but it wont hurt.

Andy

 

[Andy13]

Andy13
I'm planning a similar cycle He has a total of 3200mg of deca. And just wanted to clarify something. Are you saying the deca part of his cycle go something like this:
Week1 800mg
Week2 600mg
Week3 300mg
Week4 300mg
Week5 300mg
Week6 300mg
Week7 300 mg
Week8 300mg
The reason I choose these numbers is they are they worked out mathematically i.e. no floating-point numbers.

I personally am planning a deca/cyp cycle with much lower doses.
300mg deca / 400mg cyp a week over 10 weeks. I respond well to low doses. However you seem to adamant on the point of front loading the deca. Is this just for quicker results? Or overall gains?
I'm doing no Dbol. Have Nolvadex on hand, and will have winny on had in case of gyno from the deca (although I don't think I'm prone to it). I don't plan on using winny unless needed. Is it absolutely necessary for me to use Armidex? That stuff will cost me more the all the gear put together. If it's just for water retention, I'll fight that naturally.
Genarr3

If you shoot 800 on week one then 600 on week 2, it will be an overshot. The point of front end loading is to propell you to the maximum mg/day possible with xmg/week. Otherwise it will take about one month to accumulate those blood levels with regular 300mg/week injections.

If it were my cycle, I would inject split up 900mg into three shots and take them all on day one... But that's just me.. Some people don't like to take that many shots in one day. I believe there is a significant increase in bioavailability when one big shot is broken up in to smaller ones.

Andy