Friend Picked up Deca/Test E, trying to recomend a dosage

[mm107]

Havnt done research on stacking the 2 compounds. My cycle in the winter might consist of EQ/TEST. My boy picked up some DECA/TEST/NOLVA. I told him i would as for dosages from some VETS.

He has 20ml vials of:
300mg Deca
250mg Test
How long cycle is an average cycle of deca/test?
What is the 'average' dosages of this stack.
How long after should he start his PCT?

PS. Fuck u all who are going to say its for me lol
MOFO im gonna use EQ biatches! lol

 

[blut wump]

Has he done aas before? Tell him to give you the Nolva, it's not a good idea with Deca, maybe not great with EQ either. What variety of Test does he have?

How old is he, what's his weight, age, training experience, aas experience etc. C'mon, man, you know the drill.

 

[mikefear]

eh.. he needs more test

do 300mg deca and 400mg test a week for 10 weeks, run 500mg of test for weeks 11 & 12. start pct week 15

 

[mustang_00]

why is nolva/deca bad??

 

[mm107]

Has he done aas before? Tell him to give you the Nolva, it's not a good idea with Deca, maybe not great with EQ either. What variety of Test does he have?

How old is he, what's his weight, age, training experience, aas experience etc. C'mon, man, you know the drill.

i know the deal, already told him not do do it. He is subsituting AAS use for lack of diet/training. Stupidity i know but hey its his body and all i can do is recommend things.

He is 25-26. 170lbs. First Time user, but insists on DECA since all his 'buddies' are on it. Yes i have warned him several times. But he wants it still.

do 300mg deca and 400mg test a week for 10 weeks, run 500mg of test for weeks 11 & 12. start pct week 15

So Mike...This is the reccomendatio: (they are 20ml vials so he has plenty)
Deca @ 300mg/week Weeks 1-10
Test @ 500mg/week Weeks 1-12
PCT Start 3 weeks after Last injection.

What is the best PCT protocol for DECA. Sorry bout not researching this myself, its just not for me thats why.

 

[mikefear]

i wouldnt call 20ml vials plenty.. its 6g of deca and 5g of test.. he doesnt have enough test for 12 weeks @ 500mg.. thats why i said 400 for the first 10 and 500 for the last 2

 

[ThepoolGuy]

What IS the best pct protocal for deca/test?

 

[mikefear]

clomid/aifm/hcg

 

[CO B-man]

He is subsituting AAS use for lack of diet/training.

LOL! lol! LOL! ha! ha! ha! ha! I hope you are joking because if not he is wasting his time, gear and stupidly putting his body through something that he should not. You can stick all the shit in the world in your body if you do not lift and eat right then e is wasting his time. If he insists then make up something rediculous and say something like "that stuff is like mega potent so you only need like 50/mg every 6th day" or something silly so he does not hurt himself while wasting his time. LOL!

 

[mm107]

i wouldnt call 20ml vials plenty.. its 6g of deca and 5g of test.. he doesnt have enough test for 12 weeks @ 500mg.. thats why i said 400 for the first 10 and 500 for the last 2

Holy crap your right. Guess im lacking some math skills lol

Nice.

So it comes out to:
Deca @ 300mg/week Weeks 1-10
Test @ 400mg/week Weeks 1-10
Test @ 500mg/Week Weeks 11-12
PCT Start 3 weeks after Last injection.

 

[mm107]

LOL! lol! LOL! ha! ha! ha! ha! I hope you are joking because if not he is wasting his time, gear and stupidly putting his body through something that he should not. You can stick all the shit in the world in your body if you do not lift and eat right then e is wasting his time. If he insists then make up something rediculous and say something like "that stuff is like mega potent so you only need like 50/mg every 6th day" or something silly so he does not hurt himself while wasting his time. LOL!

LMAO i wish i was joking. Guess the MEDIA really did its job huh. People believe anything. I keep telling him diet diet diet, since im going tos chool for nutrition, but he dont get it...

Thats why i want to atleast find a decent dosage for him lol

 

[silver_shadow]

LOL! lol! LOL! ha! ha! ha! ha! I hope you are joking because if not he is wasting his time, gear and stupidly putting his body through something that he should not. You can stick all the shit in the world in your body if you do not lift and eat right then e is wasting his time. If he insists then make up something rediculous and say something like "that stuff is like mega potent so you only need like 50/mg every 6th day" or something silly so he does not hurt himself while wasting his time. LOL!

trust me Mike M knows that pretty well. and i'm sure his friend didn't listen to him, nor notice how how he's transformed himself natty.

 

[mm107]

trust me Mike M knows that pretty well. and i'm sure his friend didn't listen to him, nor notice how how he's transformed himself natty.

Thanks Silver, yea no matter what i tell people how i got my gains they always think i shot some chemical into my ass lol....

Somepeople are ignorant.

But since all it takes is for me to ask some intelligent people here before he goes and shoots deca at 1g/week for 5 weeks lol

Thanks for ALL the info guys. Im an EQ man myself. If i ever go that route.... =]

 

[blut wump]

Since he's never done either hormone, I'd suggest picking just one of them and putting the other aside. Deca could have dire short-term implications for his libido so might be the one better saved for a second cycle.

He'll do just fine with 200-250 mg of test every 4 days for 8 weeks. Keep it simple so that if/when things go wrong he can manage them simply and with reasonable confidence of minimal repercussions. 8 weeks is long enough to make some excellent gains but not so long that it'll be of any significant hazard to his HPGA.

Run HCG for 500IU ED for ten days or 1000 EOD for ten days, starting 5 days after last injection, and continue with Nolva and AIFM or aromasin for a further four or five weeks. Many recommend starting the Nolva with the HCG or even a shade before.

Look into anti-aromatases: arimidex, aromasin, letrozole, AIFM. AIFM is the economical option and should be perfectly adequate for during the cycle and throughout PCT.

 

[silver_shadow]

He'll do just fine with 200-250 mg of test every 4 days for 8 weeks. Keep it simple so that if/when things go wrong he can manage them simply and with reasonable confidence of minimal repercussions. 8 weeks is long enough to make some excellent gains but not so long that it'll be of any significant hazard to his HPGA.

at his stats and lifting experience that's all he needs in any case, any more would be overkill.

 

[mikefear]

Great suggestion, too.

 

[blut wump]

and get him over to the training forum

 

[Bruce]

well i hope captain obvious knows that deca is the most calorie dependent steroid, so if he don't eat right, he wont' gain a thing literally. it will be like shutting down his natty test and getting nothing out of it. you can quote me. at least suggest he take var or primo since it sounds like he doesn't eat right and he'll need a steroid not dependent on calories. also he deserves to pay a lot for being stubborn. your pics look fucking great btw man if that is you in the sig, peace.

 

[blut wump]

at his stats and lifting experience that's all he needs in any case, any more would be overkill.

Agreed, even 250mg E4D might be a shade on the high side.

At 200mg every four days, he'd be taking an average of 50mg per day. Removing the ester weight brings that down to 35mg per day. A normal, healthy male makes around 5mg per day so 200mg E4D is equivalent to having roughly seven-fold production. It'd be plenty.

 

[mm107]

some smart answers! ILL DEFINATELY TRY TO PURSUAD HIM!

Alot of smart bros in here, thats why i asked =]

Bruce, yea thats me about 5 weeks ago. I actually little bigger now, but my abs are covered due to me eating like a pig for competiton to make weight. They are still there, just less defined, but still got the V's

Cant wait to hit up some EQ/TEST i could imagine what smart AAS is like =]

 

[Bruce]

awesome work bro that is some serious transformation. you are gonna look awesome with some eq for sure.