Freezer test is Setup...

[linux]

The objective of this test is to see if the "Freezer test" holds any water. The freezer test states that if you put your gear in the freezer and it doesnt get cloudy or clump up then the gear isnt good.



The Freezer test is setup. Ive used 5 separate 7 dram vials (see attached photo). In each vial i place approximately 400 mg or Test E. Also in each vial i place approximately 3% Benzyl alcohol. I weighed two drops of BA in a dish and it turns out to be close to what I need. So two drops of BA were added to each vial in succession. I then wanted to add 5%, 10%, 15%, 20% Benzyl Benzoate to the remaining 4 vials as the first one will be the control and contain ony BA. Three drops of BB is about equal to 5%. So 3, 6, 9, 12 drops off BB were added to 4 vials in succession. I then visually brought each vial up to 2ccs with oil comparing it against a vial I pipetted 2ccs into. I then placed all the vials into warm water and placed on the hotplate until all the hormone had been dissolved. The vials will be placed in my freezer tonight as the results reported.

 

[CO B-man]

The objective of this test is to see if the "Freezer test" holds any water. The freezer test states that if you put your gear in the freezer and it doesnt get cloudy or clump up then the gear isnt good.



The Freezer test is setup. Ive used 5 separate 7 dram vials (see attached photo). In each vial i place approximately 400 mg or Test E. Also in each vial i place approximately 3% Benzyl alcohol. I weighed two drops of BA in a dish and it turns out to be close to what I need. So two drops of BA were added to each vial in succession. I then wanted to add 5%, 10%, 15%, 20% Benzyl Benzoate to the remaining 4 vials as the first one will be the control and contain ony BA. Three drops of BB is about equal to 5%. So 3, 6, 9, 12 drops off BB were added to 4 vials in succession. I then visually brought each vial up to 2ccs with oil comparing it against a vial I pipetted 2ccs into. I then placed all the vials into warm water and placed on the hotplate until all the hormone had been dissolved. The vials will be placed in my freezer tonight as the results reported.

Right on man. Thanks for the follow through! I did my little experiment that has no scientific basis whatsoever this weekend and it is either fake or maybe the test is not true but who knows. I am looking forward to the results. Curious minds want to know.

My experiment did yield the following result and recomendation, however. Do not inject until the stuff has enough time to get back to room temperature and that takes longer than 30 minutes! LOL!

 

[drrman]

man, quit acting like you are a chemist or something!!......lol

 

[maddawgxxl]

I hope you're gonna use that good test E when you're done!!

 

[CO B-man]

The objective of this test is to see if the "Freezer test" holds any water. The freezer test states that if you put your gear in the freezer and it doesnt get cloudy or clump up then the gear isnt good.



The Freezer test is setup. Ive used 5 separate 7 dram vials (see attached photo). In each vial i place approximately 400 mg or Test E. Also in each vial i place approximately 3% Benzyl alcohol. I weighed two drops of BA in a dish and it turns out to be close to what I need. So two drops of BA were added to each vial in succession. I then wanted to add 5%, 10%, 15%, 20% Benzyl Benzoate to the remaining 4 vials as the first one will be the control and contain ony BA. Three drops of BB is about equal to 5%. So 3, 6, 9, 12 drops off BB were added to 4 vials in succession. I then visually brought each vial up to 2ccs with oil comparing it against a vial I pipetted 2ccs into. I then placed all the vials into warm water and placed on the hotplate until all the hormone had been dissolved. The vials will be placed in my freezer tonight as the results reported.

Would the next test be to test the various types or would that not matter? Just curious?

I do buy discover magazines inquiry minds want to know?

 

[linux]

I hope you're gonna use that good test E when you're done!!

Its actually going in the shitter....I know it s crime but theres plenty more where that came from.....and NO PMs requesting giving the test E a home...Results in 10 minutes

 

[linux]

Does the freezer test work, Yes and No. As predicted in the previous thread the samples ability to freeze is going to be dependent on the amount of solvent present. It appears that somewhere between 5% and 10% Benzyl Benzoate is the inflection point between "frozen" and "flow" for Test Enanthate at 200mg/ml The results are summarized below after 1 hour in a common freezer. As a note all samples contained 3% BA.


0% BB Sample appeared fully frozen and would not flow
5% BB Sample appeared fully frozen and would not flow
10% BB Sample was very viscous and slightly flowed.
15% BB Sample Flowed Freely
20% BB Sample Flowed Freely

The results indicate that the freezer test can only be used to confirm your gear contains something besides oil. A negative test can indicate your gear is fake, or that your gear has a high enough solvent content to keep that particular hormone/0il solution from freezing.

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

Does the freezer test work, Yes and No. As predicted in the previous thread the samples ability to freeze is going to be dependent on the amount of solvent present. It appears that somewhere between 5% and 10% Benzyl Benzoate is the inflection point between "frozen" and "flow" for Test Enanthate at 200mg/ml The results are summarized below after 1 hour in a common freezer. As a note all samples contained 3% BA.


0% BB Sample appeared fully frozen and would not flow
5% BB Sample appeared fully frozen and would not flow
10% BB Sample was very viscous and slightly flowed.
15% BB Sample Flowed Freely
20% BB Sample Flowed Freely

The results indicate that the freezer test can only be used to confirm your gear contains something besides oil. A negative test can indicate your gear is fake, or that your gear has a high enough solvent content to keep that particular hormone/0il solution from freezing.

Wow bro So in short it does work with the one slight fact that it would have to have 15% and above of BB........ So my question is this what is the common BB that a lab would use...???? See My rule of thumb was this if it froze than it had test in it Not in any way to determin amount mg or what dose......... But i see the point.....

 

[lanky]

I have to give K for science experiments

 

[linux]

Wow bro So in short it does work with the one slight fact that it would have to have 15% and above of BB........ So my question is this what is the common BB that a lab would use...???? See My rule of thumb was this if it froze than it had test in it Not in any way to determin amount mg or what dose......... But i see the point.....

A general rule would be about 5%-10% BB for most UG labs...but this was setup to be specific for Test E......Who know what would happen with cyp or prop or Deca...or if the concentration of hormone was higher......you get the point. I Imagine the results would be similiar, but who knows. The important thing to come away with is that if your gear doesnt freeze is isnt necesarily bad. But if your gear freezes you are good to go. Unfortunately the only real way to tell is by some sort of chromotogaphy..either gas or High pressure liquid.....

 

[linux]

I have to give K for science experiments

This is about as basic as it can get, but still science none the less

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

A general rule would be about 5%-10% BB for most UG labs...but this was setup to be specific for Test E......Who know what would happen with cyp or prop or Deca...or if the concentration of hormone was higher......you get the point. I Imagine the results would be similiar, but who knows. The important this to come away with this is that if your gear doesnt freeze is isnt necesarily bad. But if your gear freezes you are good to go. Unfortunately the only real way to tell is by some sort of chromotogaphy..either gas or High pressure liquid.....

Well bro I know over the years that wheater It was TEST C...P...E it would freeze but you are right waht if it was above the 15%.... than still good But like you said 5-10% is the norm but dont rule out it being bad......... which brings us to this TRUST WERE YOU GET IT AND NO FREEZER TEST NEEDED....


but thanks Bro this was a big help No right or wrong just a lot could be's and IF's which the bottem line IF my Aunt had balls she be my uncle ... so no matter But I knew I wasnt crazy seeing the test freeze but damn the shit i tosed out over the years from that test ............K for you ...linux for taking the time to do this

 

[linux]

Not a problem..its either do stuff like this or my real work........lol

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

The results indicate that the freezer test can only be used to confirm your gear contains something besides oil. A negative test can indicate your gear is fake, or that your gear has a high enough solvent content to keep that particular hormone/0il solution from freezing.

Contains something besides oil? My point exactly, that could be anything, and not necessary a steroid compound.. Nice of you to do that experiment, but I still dont buy it.. SRCS is the best way!

 

[mr_disfunkshun]

Contains something besides oil? My point exactly, that could be anything, and not necessary a steroid compound.. Nice of you to do that experiment, but I still dont buy it.. SRCS is the best way!

LMAO damn bro No love........ but to each his own ....... tell you this I will never bank on the freezer test But too each his own

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Its all good, and your right..too each his own!

 

[linux]

Contains something besides oil? My point exactly, that could be anything, and not necessary a steroid compound.. Nice of you to do that experiment, but I still dont buy it.. SRCS is the best way!

Your right...the test is stickly qualitative with respect to thickness.....But i highly doubt a manufacturer would go through the trouble of trying to beat the freezer test by adding some high molecular weight material or some type of thickener. The first shots taken of such material would quickly alert the customer base to a problem. In the end it all comes down to trust. Do you trust some company halfway across the globe more that you trust someone making it for you.??

 

[chazk]

so the vials that did not freeze had b/a in it and you said some test .So did the test crystal up? and become cloudy??

 

[linux]

so the vials that did not freeze had b/a in it and you said some test .So did the test crystal up? and become cloudy??

All the vials had about 3% BA in them....There was no visual difference in the Vials at all...the only dfferene was the 0% and 5% BB were solid. The 10% was very viscous...

 

[bilter]

well done linux!! Thanks for sharing

 

[drols of steel]

I'm pretty sure that this thread was sparked by the thread that I posted the other day and started this whole "Freezer Test Talk" So in light of that, My initial Question holds, and BTW Linux, Thank You for putting your time into providing some very valuble information. Now,what I gathered from this is that, with this stealth gear that was "Supposedly Re-Bottled W/ No label's. If I were to use the Freezer test and It freezes all the way, I should have confidence, and also would pure cottenseed oil or the like freeze also? In which case, This guy could have just bottled some Seseme Oil, Or Cottenseed Oil. Sorry, If my questions seem redundant, Just not sure I 100% Understand.

 

[linux]

I'm pretty sure that this thread was sparked by the thread that I posted the other day and started this whole "Freezer Test Talk" So in light of that, My initial Question holds, and BTW Linux, Thank You for putting your time into providing some very valuble information. Now,what I gathered from this is that, with this stealth gear that was "Supposedly Re-Bottled W/ No label's. If I were to use the Freezer test and It freezes all the way, I should have confidence, and also would pure cottenseed oil or the like freeze also? In which case, This guy could have just bottled some Seseme Oil, Or Cottenseed Oil. Sorry, If my questions seem redundant, Just not sure I 100% Understand.

You are correct, you were the inspiration for the test. I would say that if you put your stealth gear in the freezer and it turns to a solid you are probably good to go. I used just regular good old vet oil in this experiment. Youd have to put some cotton seed oil in the freezer to be sure it wont freeze by itself. Im guessing it wont. All natural oils are essentially just long chain hydrocarbons. The length of the chain and any associated flavors come from the source of the oil, ie corn cotton seed, grape seed, etc.

 

[drols of steel]

Thanx Linux, I will do this on Fri. night and see what happens. I'll post the results.