Frack....why do you think that 9/11 was "sponsored" internally???

[ariolanine]

Listen dumbass!!! I'm talking about suspects who had direct ties to Al-Queda which the FBI had solid info on that they were told to back off on the investigation. I'm not talking about random muslims here. Pull your head out of your ass!!!!!!

Nice urban legend. You are one surly faggot...

 

[FreakMonster]

can you clarify what you mean by "easily prevented"? ofcourse you must stay within the constraints that existed at the time of 9-11. a very undermanned intelligence community, a lack of human intelligence within other countries, govt restrictions not allowing as easily access to suspected terrorist, and an extremely poorly run immigration department, and standing procedures regarding possible hi-jack airliners, etc. etc.

again, simply asking questions does not imply guilt, if you take the time to find the answers then you might be able to confidently advance some sort of a coherent hypothesis.

Listen,
I'm not the only one that says that 9-11 could have been prevented. There are many lawmakers, FBI Agents, and CIA agents who are saying the SAME EXACT THING!!!

For example Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. said "Sept. 11 might well have been prevented," "What are they doing now to prevent another 9/11?"

Law Makers Slam FBI Anti-Terror Effort:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79600,00.html

There were many warnings about an attack but somehow the FBI and CIA could not stop the biggest attack on US soil. Pretty fucking pathetic for an Intelligence Agency which is supposed to be one of the best in the world.

 

[FreakMonster]

Nice urban legend. You are one surly faggot...

Ya urban legend my ass. You really need to shut up before I make you look really stupid.


Two veteran FBI investigators say they were ordered to stop investigations into a suspected terror cell linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/FBI_whistleblowers021219.html

That doesn't look like an URBAN LEGEND to me!!!!!!!

People are not THAT stupid, except some people like you. More and more people each day are getting very tired of all this and undergoing rapid change in their formerly closely held beliefs. They don't trust the government. They know the government is lying, they sense very strongly that the government is the one behind the September 11th attacks. They are being propagandized to at a level never before seen. And their anger is building. And there are indications here and there that the secret government's neatly constructed plot is fraying at the edges. There's too many stories out there for them to manage and ALL of them seem like they can unravel at a moments notice.

Sure Bin Laden's men are carrying out the strikes but make no mistake about it, someone here, left the door open a little too wide for a thinking person to believe it was a mistake

And they're going to do it again.
It’s just too obvious to avoid. We should all be talking about it, shouting it out from the rooftops, writing letters to our congressman (or tying them to rocks and throwing them through their windows.) Our future’s at stake. And the City of New York is at stake. And the lives of Americans is at stake. It is clear in our analysis that there are too many corollaries and similarities to ignore that point directly to military intelligence involvement in the September 11th attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. There are too many facts swirling around these suspicious events that bear the hallmarks of a planned military intelligence style operation.

 

[FreakMonster]

And here's another disturbing story for you non believers not only did this FBI Agent not get fired but he fucking got promoted!!

Far from being reprimanded, Abdel-Hafiz was promoted to one of the FBI's most important anti-terrorism posts, the American Embassy in Saudi Arabia, to handle investigations for the FBI in that Muslim country.

I guess Bill "no spin zone" O'Reilly thinks that the viewers are expecting too much of him if we think he should have at least tried to find out something about Yassin Al-Kadi [or Qadi] and Sami Al-Arian, which would give him a clue as to what's going on. In both cases, in particular in the Kadi case, any FBI agent, who knew something about the high political and intelligence connections involved, would know that they were expected to cover for them. By now O'Reilly should not be so naive as to think that either the Clinton or the Bush administration really operated on the basis that "no one is above the law." Their attitude is that if someone works for the CIA or is very politically useful to the administration, then the laws just don't apply in these cases. Amal Abdel Hafiz was looking for any excuse to avoid pursuing these cases. If it wasn't religion, he would have thought of another excuse, or simply reported it to one of the highups, and then Robert Wright would have been told to back off. This is why "FBI chief Robert Mueller threatened to fire him if he appeared on THE FACTOR."

Yassin Al-Kadi and Sami Al-Arian most likely do favors for the CIA or CIA "assets".
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,80346,00.html

 

[ariolanine]

Ya urban legend my ass. You really need to shut up before I make you look really stupid.

I always welcome that challenge, especially from conspiracy theorists.

Two veteran FBI investigators say they were ordered to stop investigations into a suspected terror cell linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and the Sept. 11 attacks.

You think it's because of an elaborate gov't conspiracty. I think it's because our PC gov't is afraid of being accused of racism. Which one do you REALLY think is more likely?

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/FBI_whistleblowers021219.html

That doesn't look like an URBAN LEGEND to me!!!!!!!

Nor does it look like proof of a gov't conspiracy.

People are not THAT stupid, except some people like you. More and more people each day are getting very tired of all this and undergoing rapid change in their formerly closely held beliefs. They don't trust the government. They know the government is lying, they sense very strongly that the government is the one behind the September 11th attacks. They are being

In your world maybe. People who think with logic do not think the gov't is behind Sept. 11. I don't trust the gov't either but I guess I will be forever dumb in your eyes because I can distinguish fantasy from reality.

And there are indications here and there that the secret government's neatly constructed plot is fraying at the edges. There's too many stories out there for them to manage and ALL of them seem like they can unravel at a moments notice.

What website did you cut and paste that from? Sources please?

Sure Bin Laden's men are carrying out the strikes but make no mistake about it, someone here, left the door open a little too wide for a thinking person to believe it was a mistake

Yes, you can thank thirty years of liberal emasculating and immigration.

And they're going to do it again.
It’s just too obvious to avoid. We should all be talking about it, shouting it out from the rooftops, writing letters to our congressman (or tying them to rocks and throwing them through their windows.) Our future’s at stake. And the City of New York is at stake. And the lives of Americans is at stake.

So what your saying is that we should ignore the islamofascists and lock up the tri-lateral commission and the bilderburgers, right?

It is clear in our analysis that there are too many corollaries and similarities to ignore that point directly to military intelligence involvement in the September 11th attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. There are too many facts swirling around these suspicious events that bear the hallmarks of a planned military intelligence style operation.

Ok, you are clearly cutting and pasting. Some original thought please!!!

 

[ariolanine]

And here's another disturbing story for you non believers not only did this FBI Agent not get fired but he fucking got promoted!!

Far from being reprimanded, Abdel-Hafiz was promoted to one of the FBI's most important anti-terrorism posts, the American Embassy in Saudi Arabia, to handle investigations for the FBI in that Muslim country.

I guess Bill "no spin zone" O'Reilly thinks that the viewers are expecting too much of him if we think he should have at least tried to find out something about Yassin Al-Kadi [or Qadi] and Sami Al-Arian, which would give him a clue as to what's going on. In both cases, in particular in the Kadi case, any FBI agent, who knew something about the high political and intelligence connections involved, would know that they were expected to cover for them. By now O'Reilly should not be so naive as to think that either the Clinton or the Bush administration really operated on the basis that "no one is above the law." Their attitude is that if someone works for the CIA or is very politically useful to the administration, then the laws just don't apply in these cases. Amal Abdel Hafiz was looking for any excuse to avoid pursuing these cases. If it wasn't religion, he would have thought of another excuse, or simply reported it to one of the highups, and then Robert Wright would have been told to back off. This is why "FBI chief Robert Mueller threatened to fire him if he appeared on THE FACTOR."

Yassin Al-Kadi and Sami Al-Arian most likely do favors for the CIA or CIA "assets".
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,80346,00.html

Dude, what are you doing? You are proving my point and disproving yours.

 

[ariolanine]

By the way, the last line in your sig is also an urban legend. The quote is taken from Bush's conversation with Bob Woodward in regard to his Cabinet meetings. It had nothing to do with Iraq.

 

[spongebob]

Listen,
I'm not the only one that says that 9-11 could have been prevented. There are many lawmakers, FBI Agents, and CIA agents who are saying the SAME EXACT THING!!!

For example Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. said "Sept. 11 might well have been prevented," "What are they doing now to prevent another 9/11?"

Law Makers Slam FBI Anti-Terror Effort:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79600,00.html

There were many warnings about an attack but somehow the FBI and CIA could not stop the biggest attack on US soil. Pretty fucking pathetic for an Intelligence Agency which is supposed to be one of the best in the world.

1. freakmonster, yes everything could have been prevented hypothetically. thats a no-brainer! given the condition of the intelligence community and thier lack of financing and human intelligence abroad, standing procedures within the airlines industry, standing procedures within the US govt regarding hi-jacked airliners, and the highly incompetent immigration services it is extremely easy to pull off what bin laden did. given everything i just said i bet i could offer up 3 times as many people who all agree it could not have been prevented.

2. my opinion is that when arlen spector makes a comment like that, that he is referring to exactly what i am talking about, yes it could have been prevented if the proper tools were in plces. he is not implying that someone let it happen. he is referring to the breakdown within our intelligence community. so taking his qoute out of context and drawing a conclusion from it is rediculous.

3. TWC was not the first attack that showed a lack of actual intelligence gathering and not interpretating it sufficiently by our intelligence community. and who said they were the best in the world? you?

 

[Egresser]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only right winger here....Thx Ario, I agree with you 100%. As far as the government saying 9/11 could have been prevented, it's not meant to say that someone knew exactly what, where, when, and how. There was an earlier post saying that we (the US) would have never gotten support if it were not for 9/11......what support are you speaking of? The French, Germany, Russia, the GD UN....or the thousands of people who are antiwar but are insistant on adding to our deficit by conducting useless rallies. If you are one of those that thinks we should have given Saddam another 12 years to build up his chemical arsenal, aquire nuclear weapons to sell or use, continue to torture and kill people who can't stand up for themselves, and allow his son to continue to rape little girls, you are a sad being. Why are we in Iraq, because we finally have a President with balls who has decided that enough is enough. If you seriously think his intensions are based on being re-elected, your dumb. I proudly serve my country, and back our President 100%

 

[spongebob]

Two veteran FBI investigators say they were ordered to stop investigations into a suspected terror cell linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/FBI_whistleblowers021219.html

That doesn't look like an URBAN LEGEND to me!!!!!!!

1. this was in the mid 90's when they were told that. are you suggesting that clinton's admin was in on it to???