Football Player Needs Help!

[cougar8]

My brother is playing college football right now and just started spring ball a couple of weeks ago. He is 6'3'' 265-270 and plays defensive end. His coached called him in today and told him he is moving him down to play tackle to help strengthen the line. Anyways, he told my brother that he needs to put on another 20 lbs. at least and to do it by whatever means necessary! My brother has never done a cycle before and came to me for help. Obviously he needs to use something that has a short half-life and will only be in his system for a short period of time. I was thinking maybe Test Prop or Suspension but I don't want to tell him something that I'm not completely sure about. I need your help on this one guys! All help is greatly appreciated!

Cougar8

 

[riverrock]

Your Brother's coach sounds like a right shady character! Tell your Bro to hit Dianabol for 4 weeks, and do test prop every second day. Do 150mg on 2 days and 75mg on the others. Make sure to swap injection sites as pain may affect his mobility. Test Prop is notoriously painful injection.

 

[cougar8]

Thanks Riverrock! How long do you think he can expect it to be in his system?

 

[azul]

My brother is playing college football right now and just started spring ball a couple of weeks ago. He is 6'3'' 265-270 and plays defensive end. His coached called him in today and told him he is moving him down to play tackle to help strengthen the line. Anyways, he told my brother that he needs to put on another 20 lbs. at least and to do it by whatever means necessary! My brother has never done a cycle before and came to me for help. Obviously he needs to use something that has a short half-life and will only be in his system for a short period of time. I was thinking maybe Test Prop or Suspension but I don't want to tell him something that I'm not completely sure about. I need your help on this one guys! All help is greatly appreciated!

Cougar8

Test prop with an oral would be a good idea. Test suspension before workouts would help as well.

 

[cougar8]

Thanks Riverrock! How long do you think he can expect it to be in his system?

Also how long should he run the Prop?

 

[riverrock]

Thanks Riverrock! How long do you think he can expect it to be in his system?

2 weeks for the Tset Prop and a few hours for the Dianabol. Got to www.steroidtips.com for a simple and easy read. It'll tell you all about detection times as well

 

[riverrock]

Also how long should he run the Prop?

Run the prop for 10 weeks. Vital that he injects every second day. It'll screw up your test levels dramatically if you don't

 

[cougar8]

Run the prop for 10 weeks. Vital that he injects every second day. It'll screw up your test levels dramatically if you don't

Thanks

 

[PitBullFootBall]

Your Brother's coach sounds like a right shady character! Tell your Bro to hit Dianabol for 4 weeks, and do test prop every second day. Do 150mg on 2 days and 75mg on the others. Make sure to swap injection sites as pain may affect his mobility. Test Prop is notoriously painful injection.

Most of them are shady characters, friggin hypocrites. Out front they denounce juice and if you get caught they will boot you. But behind closed doors its a completely different story, they know whats happening and they encourage it. 50% of them are scumbag grown men who don't give a fuck about anything but a win even if it means telling a 19 year old kid to get big "by any means neccesary" and kick him to the curb if he tests positive and get a new 19 yr old to fuck up.

anyways test prop is a good idea, or even ethanate if he isn't going to be tested until the season comes (he should have an idea of when its coming). Dbol is good but slows you down on the field, I think drol is a little better for a d-lineman. If hes already that big it shouldn't take much for him to bulk up, the big fellas are usually strong responders.

 

[DaPit26]

I gained sick weight from droppin the a bomb. Anadrol is strong but has some nasty shit with it so if he want's to get big, read up on it. I wouldn't take it again myself unless it was for like 2 weeks mixed in with my stack. Bottom line - Huge fast

 

[gimp]

what about tons of food and creatine?

 

[cornfish]

I think after he got done with anadrol he would be 50lbs heavier, and the best part about it is, he would take a piss twice and 3/4 of it would be gone.

It's really best for him to do some hard research and to do what he feels comfortable with. PitBullFootBall is correct in saying that he should respond well to anything that's in his system since it sounds like he's in relatively great shape to start off with.

Just tell him to do what he feels comfortable with and not to do anything stupid. No reason at all to screw your health up to fill some void in the coaches line

 

[nutsnack]

Test prop with an oral would be a good idea. Test suspension before workouts would help as well.

If he has to practice during the off season or do anything other then lift i would avoid prop b/c it hurts like a bitch the next day, it could give him the "roid limp" which im sure we all have had

What is his BF just out of curiousity?

 

[azul]

If he has to practice during the off season or do anything other then lift i would avoid prop b/c it hurts like a bitch the next day, it could give him the "roid limp" which im sure we all have had

What is his BF just out of curiousity?

Yeah, but it also clears your system quickly, and that's important in this situation. Do you have any better recommendations?

 

[concordsize]

im going to have to go with:
test suspension due to its activity time
a50
GH

 

[nutsnack]

Yeah, but it also clears your system quickly, and that's important in this situation. Do you have any better recommendations?

im not a college football player but do they test every year pre season or what is the deal with testing?

 

[awol1]

what about tons of food and creatine?

That'll bulk you up for sure. But maybe not in the time he needs. Figure he needs to gain 30 pounds by mid august before camp. He'll drop 10 pounds in camp alone.

I dont think creatine and peanut butter sandwiches will cut it for this timeframe.

 

[azul]

im not a college football player but do they test every year pre season or what is the deal with testing?

I'm not one either, but as far as I know, they can test you anytime they want to.

 

[azul]

That'll bulk you up for sure. But maybe not in the time he needs. Figure he needs to gain 30 pounds by mid august before camp. He'll drop 10 pounds in camp alone.

I dont think creatine and peanut butter sandwiches will cut it for this timeframe.

I agree. Considering that he's already 265-270 lbs, I'm sure he knows how to eat

 

[riverrock]

Most of them are shady characters, friggin hypocrites. Out front they denounce juice and if you get caught they will boot you. But behind closed doors its a completely different story, they know whats happening and they encourage it. 50% of them are scumbag grown men who don't give a fuck about anything but a win even if it means telling a 19 year old kid to get big "by any means neccesary" and kick him to the curb if he tests positive and get a new 19 yr old to fuck up.

anyways test prop is a good idea, or even ethanate if he isn't going to be tested until the season comes (he should have an idea of when its coming). Dbol is good but slows you down on the field, I think drol is a little better for a d-lineman. If hes already that big it shouldn't take much for him to bulk up, the big fellas are usually strong responders.

You don't like football coaches very much, do you!!! I see your point though. Most coaches in all sports couldn't care less about the well being of the athletes in their care. All they care about is getting results to boost their own coaching career and if someone "getting big by whatever means" helps that coach to achieve better results, then that's all that bothers him.

 

[slat1]

You don't like football coaches very much, do you!!! I see your point though. Most coaches in all sports couldn't care less about the well being of the athletes in their care. All they care about is getting results to boost their own coaching career and if someone "getting big by whatever means" helps that coach to achieve better results, then that's all that bothers him.

Coach's don't have the players health in mind at all. PCT is going to be very important. The last thing you want to do is crash mid season. This is a tough call. I don't see this working out to well. Moving inside and gaining a quick 20 is a red flag. He will most likely be the first one tested.

 

[csilke]

I'm not one either, but as far as I know, they can test you anytime they want to.

Random 'year-round' testing applies to divisions I and II, where 'year-round' means any time you're at college.

 

[cougar8]

If he has to practice during the off season or do anything other then lift i would avoid prop b/c it hurts like a bitch the next day, it could give him the "roid limp" which im sure we all have had

What is his BF just out of curiousity?

Not sure about his body fat. He isn't really fat, he's just thick. He's a defensive end at 265 so I'm sure his bodyfat isn't too bad but it isn't great either.

 

[cougar8]

what about tons of food and creatine?

My brother and I trained and played football together for years and have used creatine and good nutrition habits for a long time. Creatine won't give him the boost he needs because he is already on it.

 

[cougar8]

im not a college football player but do they test every year pre season or what is the deal with testing?

It mainly happens during spring ball and during the preseason and throughout the season. It rarely happens in the off-season because some people like to do their own training at home so they are away for the summer.

 

[cougar8]

Coach's don't have the players health in mind at all. PCT is going to be very important. The last thing you want to do is crash mid season. This is a tough call. I don't see this working out to well. Moving inside and gaining a quick 20 is a red flag. He will most likely be the first one tested.

I see your point but at the same time if he is training back home during the summer he might be ok. I told him it was his call.

 

[nutsnack]

I see your point but at the same time if he is training back home during the summer he might be ok. I told him it was his call.

test wise i had a website once that listed how long every roid you could imagine stayed in your system but my HD got deleted maybe someone else has it and can help ya out

 

[awol1]

I see your point but at the same time if he is training back home during the summer he might be ok. I told him it was his call.

Correct me if i am wrong, but isnt testing is done by the NCAA at random? The coaches have nothing to do with it.

That is the way it was when i played. The folks from the NCAA would make a visit, test a small percentage of the team and that was it. They came three times when I played, once at the very beginning of the season, once in the middle, and once in the spring.

It may have changed, but I don't believe he has to worry about his coaches doing a thing.

 

[CRsteve]

NCAA testing is random at any point of the year except during summer and winter breaks.

 

[PantherG45]

more than likely the coaches would never make him piss, but they can if they want to...spring time is when a lot get tested, ncaa will test a few guys at supposed "random" during the season. Also, if the team is good, and they make the post season, in DIII or DII, he will get tested, DI usually tests before bowl games post season as well. Speaking from experience.

as for the gear, I would go with test prop or suspension, and dbol although they both hurt. If you can get your hands on some Halo, that works wonders before practices. The prop shouldn't bother him too much, he'll be soar regardless, and most likely it won't feel any worse than his sore muscles in his ass anyways, I used to get our one trainer to give me butt massages before practice, she didn't know it was because of gear though.

 

[PitBullFootBall]

more than likely the coaches would never make him piss, but they can if they want to...spring time is when a lot get tested, ncaa will test a few guys at supposed "random" during the season. Also, if the team is good, and they make the post season, in DIII or DII, he will get tested, DI usually tests before bowl games post season as well. Speaking from experience.

as for the gear, I would go with test prop or suspension, and dbol although they both hurt. If you can get your hands on some Halo, that works wonders before practices. The prop shouldn't bother him too much, he'll be soar regardless, and most likely it won't feel any worse than his sore muscles in his ass anyways, I used to get our one trainer to give me butt massages before practice, she didn't know it was because of gear though.

Right, many guys play 4-5 years and never give a sample once. Others are chosen often. He should be clean for bowl season and probably during spring ball to be safe, about 2-3 weeks after spring ball would be a good time to hit some Tprop/drol.

btw, just wondering, what does Halo do for you before practice, make you more aggresive?

 

[PantherG45]

lol, much more aggressive. . . for me at least. Made me feel like the I was in the movie "The Program" whenever they are going threw tackling drills during camp. F'n sweet bro

 

[lefler]

NCAA testing is random at any point of the year except during summer and winter breaks.

correct


do a 10 week of prop and var or winny(tabs) as soon as finals are done. it will be out of his system before two-a-days. pct of course

good link: http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/health-safety/drug_testing/index