Food Question

[Toenail Juice Z]

I am currently on a D-Bol, Sustanon, Deca Stack.
I find it impossible to eat 5000-6000 calories a day, and don't have the money to buy weight gainers. Are there any low fat foods that are very high in calories ?

Couldn't I make decent gains on a high-protein diet only?, or are the calories very essential?

I don't wanna waste my gear.

 

[enzymus]

My routine

I never eat that many calories and I'm growing nicely on 500mg sus winny primo and anavar.

Look to nature to give you common sense. Weight gainer will add fat is that your goal. I don't respect the high calorie theory at all.

Gorilla's don't eat weight gainers they simply gro


Here it is. Eat plenty of food ignore caloric intake altogether. I eat canned Hereford canned roast beef with gravy and libby's canned corned beef.

Corn beef 15 grams of protien per can $2.95 ea.
0 carbs 7 grams fat 120 cals per serving 6 servings
Total protien 90

roast beef 2.5 grams fat 3 carbs 29 protien
servings 2.5. Total protien 72.5


I'm keeping almost all carbs out of my diet. I give myseld carbs at intervals.

Keeping the blood sugar low trains the body to use stored fat throught the day. I train mornings early I get up an hour before I go and eat 2 bananas to raise blood sugar before workout.

I have not yet felt tired after about 3 weeks of training my body to adapt. I've had this routine for about 7 months and I gained 13 pure pounds of muscle from my last cycle. The only thing with high protien diets is all the sodium. Keep salt levels low with 2 gallons of water per day on gain cycles and 1 gallon on cutting cycles. I take 1/2 the recommended dosage of Taraxatone to help flush water out. Any thermogenic will work. On cheat days alcohol can be consumed and also is a good dieretic. Beer works great. Your body has a limit to how much fat it can store in short periods of time. Large quantites of beer will not make you fat if they are taken in large doses for short periods of time. Say like on Friday night. 1 thing to remember is to not drink till the point of hangover it will weaken your immune system and ruin your workouts. If you use alcohol on your cheat days you still have to eat clean.

 

[Toenail Juice Z]

Gyno, thanks a lot.

 

[LCBUTLER]

It's ok to eat fats while on and off cycle, as long as they are the right ones remember fat has 9 calories per gram so you can get your cals up by eating good fats.

Foods with "good" fats
Natural Peanut Butter (not a bad source of protein)
Almonds
Walnuts
Pecans
Flax Oil
Fish Oil

I eat good fats at anytime during the day.

Foods with "good" carbs:
Sweet Potatoes
Flourless bread (carried by some grocery stores and organic food stores)
Small new potatoes
Fiberous veggies like green beans, asparagus, etc.

If you are worried about carbs then just eat them in the AM.

You can make a trip to the grocery store a hell of a lot better than those weight gainers with a bunch of maltodextrin in them.

For proteins, of course:
Chicken
Fish
Lean red meat
Eggs

I also eat protein at any time during the day.

Basically just keep it simple, with foods that give you the most bang for your buck, especially if you are on a budget.

A typical daytime meal for me is:

6oz. Chicken Breast
4oz. Ground Sirloin
1 bag frozen mixed veggies
1 small new potato
5 or 6 almond
5 or 6 pecans.

Hope this helps a little.

LC

 

[enzymus]

It's ok to eat fats while on and off cycle, as long as they are the right ones remember fat has 9 calories per gram so you can get your cals up by eating good fats.

Foods with "good" fats
Natural Peanut Butter (not a bad source of protein)
Almonds
Walnuts
Pecans
Flax Oil
Fish Oil

I eat good fats at anytime during the day.

Foods with "good" carbs:
Sweet Potatoes
Flourless bread (carried by some grocery stores and organic food stores)
Small new potatoes
Fiberous veggies like green beans, asparagus, etc.

If you are worried about carbs then just eat them in the AM.

You can make a trip to the grocery store a hell of a lot better than those weight gainers with a bunch of maltodextrin in them.

For proteins, of course:
Chicken
Fish
Lean red meat
Eggs

I also eat protein at any time during the day.

Basically just keep it simple, with foods that give you the most bang for your buck, especially if you are on a budget.

A typical daytime meal for me is:

6oz. Chicken Breast
4oz. Ground Sirloin
1 bag frozen mixed veggies
1 small new potato
5 or 6 almond
5 or 6 pecans.

Hope this helps a little.

LC

Bump this is also very key information. LCBUTLER also does his homework.......Nice info

 

[enzymus]

Bump this thread I wanna hear more about what you guys are eating.

 

[BoomBoom]

Meal 1:
6egg whites 2 yellows
1/2 oat meal uncooked(dry)
5 oz. 93% lean beef or chicken

Meal 2rotein shake-->mixed in water with
{17grams protein, 3 grams carbs (2 sugar), 4 grams fat (.5 saturated)} per serving I use 2 servings.
2tbls natural peanut butter (smuckers) After settled oil has been drained.
1 table spoon of jello fat free sugar free bannana pudding mix.

Meal 3:
8oz. chicken breast pre cooked
6 oz. sweet potato
1 cup of raw veges(broccoilli cauliflower carrots)

Meal 4: Protein shake (after work out) powered whey only 1 serving 20 grams protein, 2g carbs, 2g fat immeadiatly after work out.

Meal 5: (about an hour after meal 4)
protein shake --40 protein, 3 fat, 8 carbs
2tbls of natural peanut butter

Meal 6: 10 oz. chicken or 93% lean beef (2 days out of the week fish and sirloin steak 2days also)
2cups veges(broccolli ,carrots caulliflower)

*also depending on how long it is before I go to bed after the last meal I may eat 1 cup nofat cottage cheese lke an hour before bed.

 

[anabolic24/7]

BoomBoom, are you cutting with that diet?
If I'm bulking I dont eat any diet food. Pasta, bagels, tons of red meat, buckwheat pancakes, all the chicken, home made pizza(lower fat),milk, lowfat cheese, fruit, whole eggs, mashed potatoes, yogurt, lower fat snack products...
I dont get over 12%bf in the offseason, but I cant gain weight on the diets listed so far.
Bottom line if your not gaining weight...eat more!

 

[LCBUTLER]

BOOM.

Your diet looks a lot like mine, clean, clean, clean!! That seems to be the way to go for me. I have found that I can eat about as much "clean" food as I can without putting on body fat. How bout' you??

Cottage Cheese is great...I had almost forgot about it, Good source of protein, and glutamine.

Here is my basic diet...I change it to account for cravings, and it is not always so static. I may have to sub a meal for a protein bar, or MRP sometimes, but I do prefer whole food meals

6:00 AM
2 Cartons cooked all whites
1/2 to 1 cup. Oatmeal with sliced almonds
1 tablespoon flax oil, or usually natural peanut butter.

8:30 AM
I call it my mainstay I have eaten this so many times...
6oz. Chicken Breast
4oz. Ground Sirloin
1 bag frozen mixed veggies
1 small new potato
5 or 6 almonds
5 or 6 pecans

11:00 AM
6oz. Chicken Breast
4oz. Ground Sirloin
1 bag frozen mixed veggies
1 small new potato
5 or 6 almonds
5 or 6 pecans

2:00 PM
6oz. Chicken Breast
4oz. Ground Sirloin
1 bag frozen mixed veggies
1 small new potato

3:30 PM last meal before workout
MRP-Met-rx or something similiar

6:00-7:30
Workout

7:31 PM
2c. Orange Juice w/glutamine
ALA
Optimum Nutrition Protein Drink

8:30
6oz. Chicken Breast
4oz. Ground Sirloin
1 bag frozen mixed veggies
1 small new potato


10:00
NO Carb Protein Powder

Wake up and start it all over...I am a slave to my food.

LC

 

[LCBUTLER]

OH yeah one little philosophy of mine....If I feel hungry...I EAT no matter how long between meals.

 

[BoomBoom]

yes that is a cutting diet milker said he wanted to ee what every one eats and I am cutting now. But when bulking it looks more like this:

Meal 1:
8egg whites 4 yellows
1c oat meal uncooked(dry)
6 oz. 93% lean beef or chicken

Meal 2rotein shake-->mixed in milk with
{17grams protein, 3 grams carbs (2 sugar), 4 grams fat (.5 saturated)} per serving *I use 3 servings.*
3-4tbls natural peanut butter (smuckers) No oil drain.
1 table spoon of jello fat free sugar free bannana pudding mix.
1/2cup rolled oats

Meal 3:
8oz. chicken breast pre cooked
6 oz. sweet potato
4 oz. beef with rice
1 cup of raw veges(broccoilli cauliflower carrots)

Meal 4: Protein shake (after work out) powered whey only 1 serving 20 grams protein, 2g carbs, 2g fat immeadiatly after work out.

Meal 5: (about an hour after meal 4)
protein shake --40 protein, 3 fat, 8 carbs
4tbls of natural peanut butter adds about 14g protien
1/2cup rolled oat or bannana

Meal 6: 10 oz. chicken or 93% lean beef (2 days out of the week fish and sirloin 15 oz. steak 2days also)
2cups veges(broccolli ,carrots caulliflower)
6 oz baked potato or rice

Bed Meal
*cottage cheese 1c
2 tbls peanut butter

 

[anabolic24/7]

BB, I would need more carbs than that. Everone is different.
Toenail, your diet is just that, yours. It will take some experimenting to dial in. It's the hardest part to bodybuilding. Eat everything that is considered "good" If you begin to put on bf back off, if you start leaning out eat more. You have to figure out what works for you.
Some people can't look at carbs without getting fat, others can eat them all day long. Let the mirror guide you.

 

[BoomBoom]

You speak the truth anabolic!

 

[badazzwhitedude]

I like a lot of carbs when going for size. I find yogurt to be pretty easy calories. Most have approx. 250 cals, 8-10 grams of protein, and about 30-40 grams of carbs. And they are pretty cheap, too.

 

[2Thick]

Actually if your diet is around 2500-3000 per day then about 4000 is all you need. get a weight gainer.