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Alright, i'm 5'10" at around 195 (pretty low bodyfat)... I'm at the gym at least 5 days a week (usually 6), and i've pretty much got dieting down (6/7 meals a day)... I'm thinking about running a cycle of sust250 and deca, but i'm not sure how long I should run the cycles for... can anyone help? What would be a good "begginer" cycle? I'm also looking into anadrol and anavar... Also, what would be a good pct?

Thanks...
 
I would drop the Deca....run the sust. at 500mg wk-2 injections per week....and start it off with 30-40mg dbol for 4 weeks........and make sure you have your anti-e and pct lined up BEFORE you start! :)
 
I competed in my first bodybuilding comp back in December, and I've been training for a little over 3 years now... I'm about to get into powerlifting for fun, but my main goal is to be a succesful bodybuilder...i'm currently looking through the forums for other info, but i thought it'd be good to ask too...

So I should start off with the Sust and D-Bol?
 
nono, drop the sust, get some enenthate. test e and dbol(4 weeks) for 10 weeks and hcg and nolva for pct, would be good.
 
I don't really want to give away my age... i know i shouldnt really even be considering steroids at my age, but i feel that im experienced enough to take the next step... Im afraid that if you guys know how old i am you'll hold back info, lol...
 
Dabeastx said:
I don't really want to give away my age... i know i shouldnt really even be considering steroids at my age, but i feel that im experienced enough to take the next step... Im afraid that if you guys know how old i am you'll hold back info, lol...
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There is no info held back when you have a search function...But yes you are right, if you are too young, then you will get ripped and people will do the right thing and try to convince you to not use AAS.

I tried AAS at 36 years old. That is how long it took me to gain the knowledge and get enough years of workout experience. Others have been sooner. but again, it seems as if you want everyone to give you all info. Do a search first and come up with some information of your own. If You have questions about certain issues, then you can get help..once you have decide on what and how you want to run things, post up and we will help you hash things out. Just read and study a while.
 
thanks a lot guys...dont get me wrong, but im not a dumbass thats jumping into this... I've talked to a lot of experienced people at my gym, and i have been researching everything for a good while (this isnt the first time ive considered it...but ive just gotten to the point where i think im "ready")...

I'll do more research in the forums...but i think im set on the sust/dbol...ill look into the test e, but ive wanted to get on sust since i first started researching... I'll keep everyone up to date on my progress...
 
sustanon is a 4 estered test so u need to get on something like test e or cyp for ur first one at 500mgs a week broken up E4Days 250mgs...it is okay to run d bol at 30-40mgs ED for the first 5 weeks....im young as well and u also need to research ALOT more and get ur PCT set up
 
and dont even think about anadrol for ur first cycle.. there are guys who are on the um teenth cycle and will not touch the stuff again.. so i would weight on that...besides its all water weight so it will j ust aromatize when u quit takin it.. just keep reading on the boards and research that a way u dont have to ask for someone to put together a cycle for u or a PCT.. once u get the idea then ask if it sounds good
 
Dabeastx said:
I don't really want to give away my age... i know i shouldnt really even be considering steroids at my age, but i feel that im experienced enough to take the next step... Im afraid that if you guys know how old i am you'll hold back info, lol...
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I don't know about the rest of you, but this kinda pisses me off..... Ok, don't tell us your age, but if youre under age 25 you can make big gains with diet and training.... Steroids can actually hurt you permantely if you are too young, it isn't something to fuck with man..... I don't think guys would hold back info cause of your age, they would just tell you not to cycle yet...... It sounds to me like you are inpatient in your progress, and wanna use juice to speed up your gains..... This is just wrong cause you can make gains at your age.... I know growing takes alot of work, and time in the gym, but using compounds that can impair your health isn't very smart bro..... Think about what I'm saying, you will see I'm right.....

rizz
 
kmoe42 said:
and dont even think about anadrol for ur first cycle.. there are guys who are on the um teenth cycle and will not touch the stuff again.. so i would weight on that...besides its all water weight so it will j ust aromatize when u quit takin it.. just keep reading on the boards and research that a way u dont have to ask for someone to put together a cycle for u or a PCT.. once u get the idea then ask if it sounds good
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Yeah...i was actually kinda afraid of it, but this guy at my gym was really pushing me towards it...but thanks for the heads up.
 
Prizz said:
I don't know about the rest of you, but this kinda pisses me off..... Ok, don't tell us your age, but if youre under age 25 you can make big gains with diet and training.... Steroids can actually hurt you permantely if you are too young, it isn't something to fuck with man..... I don't think guys would hold back info cause of your age, they would just tell you not to cycle yet...... It sounds to me like you are inpatient in your progress, and wanna use juice to speed up your gains..... This is just wrong cause you can make gains at your age.... I know growing takes alot of work, and time in the gym, but using compounds that can impair your health isn't very smart bro..... Think about what I'm saying, you will see I'm right.....

rizz
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I understand...id be kinda pissed to, and no...it isnt that i'm not making gains. It's just that competitive bodybuilding/powerlifting is something i want to persue... I understand that i am risking a lot by making this decision, but i plan on getting regular blood tests and everything... in other words... i wont be a total dumbass about it...
 
Bro if u're done growing (bones and all) and ure mature enough to do it then do it, considering all things like diet, training and overall regiment is there. i started at 18 and i believe that the best gains are when you;re young coz you recover so quickly. every cycle ive done, ive kept all my gains, strength, mass, size, everything. Cyrex had a thread about this and made ALOT of sense in it.
 
Yeah, im definatly done growing...ive been the same height since middle school... and my diet, training, and everything is great...i basically never miss a workout and i hardly ever eat bad...but yeah, im definatly set on it.
 
Sounds like your about 17-18...Your going to fuck up your growth plates....Dont take the juice, just wait and dont be lazy.
 
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Sounds like your about 17-18...Your going to fuck up your growth plates....Dont take the juice, just wait and dont be lazy.
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lets not assume here bro. lets just wait for the guy to say how old he is.
 
damn...now that was a good guess...ill confess. My b-day is sept. 16, 1988...im 17.

here come the haters...

But seriously, im not your typically teenage punk in the gym...
 
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damn...now that was a good guess...ill confess. My b-day is sept. 16, 1988...im 17.
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I'll say, wait till ure definately done puberty. but stick around and learn.
 
Here bro, Here is my advice....Just dont do it, its not worth the risks at your age. Eat big and lift big. Here is a great artice from bb.com that should answer most of your questions.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=82903

Also, x-factor (a supp) Can give u some ok gains and its legal and wont fuck you up. Give it a shot, 50 day cycle, 100 bucks. I packed on 15 pounds of lean musscle.

Anyways, peace
 
Anybody offering advice to this guy is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Great job guys. Besides, there's no useful info on roid use for a guy this young because he shouldn't be using them anyway. Oh well, at least he's not smoking crack.
 
The guy is right. You can screw up your growth plates and prevent yourself from getting a big as you may would naturally, or growing properly.
It's just me, but you only got one body, and it's not like you can go back and start over...
 
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Anybody offering advice to this guy is contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Great job guys. Besides, there's no useful info on roid use for a guy this young because he shouldn't be using them anyway. Oh well, at least he's not smoking crack.
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I understand what you're saying, but you're the exact reason i didn't want to say my age. I just want information...I've heard it all before. I'll do some research about growth plates and everything, but don't treat me like a delinquent...
 
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BigCracker is just trying to help. May not be a good idea to make enemies when you are looking for information...
 
Bro's its VERY obvious that this young bro is going to do it regardless of what we say or if we are against him doing it or not ...so its a point of rather we want to give him the info or not ...
 
hey at least if your caught you can be charged as a minor :)... haha... but ya 17 I couldn't even imagine doing it then... Whatch out for man boobs though... don't even start without some nolv on hand.

That said

at 17 just run 250 mgs-300 mgs week of Test E

Stay on a low does of test for a couple years...

I wouldnt hit any other aas but a low dose of test and once you are comfortable with the side effects and experiences maybe toss in some dbol down the line

And do you suffer from acne? At 17 if i took AAS my head woulda just turned in one big pimple
 
Starting so young chances are you'll never reach your genetic potential because you'll never learn how to train/diet properly without using roids as a "crutch". You're supposed to use roids to take yourself to the next level after you've maximized your gains naturally. There's no way in hell you could do this at 17. You're like a guy that's just started skateboarding and now you wanna drop in on a half pipe and grind like Tony Hawk.
 
17? Wow, dude you really need to wait..... Youre gonna fuck yourself up somehow, and regret it...... Your Test lvls are so high, why would you consider taking artifical Test? It doesn't make sene bro..... I'm not hating, I'm just concerned for you.....

rizz
 
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