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I'm about 6'6" and about 185 lbs and i have always had trouble gaining mass although i do gain strength.. I've been lifting for about 6 years and just started my first cycle last week.

week 1-10 -- 1cc test propinate 100 / eod (3cc total weekly)
week 1-10 -- 1cc deca 400 / weekly

I have nolv and have been taking it everyday, i was wondering if I am suppose to be taking it everyday or just when i start developing symptoms of gyno or when im suppose to be taking it?

Also i was wondering what you guys advise I should take during my PCT and what kind of diet I should be on while taking this cycle.. Currently i eat just about anything and everything that is infront of me not too healthy but not THAT crappy..

also i know this is a shot in the dark but any guesses on what kind of results this cycle would give me? I'm actually only aiming at breaking 200..


I read up alot before i started this cycle so i'm not going into it blind but there is way more then i thought to it..


Thanks!
 
savage is right bro...


ok...here's the deal. everybody reacts differently to test. some people take high doses w/no anti e's or anti a's and never see any signs of gyno. there are others that get it immediately with the smallest amount of test. but to answer your question and as savage already stated...yes...i would take 10mg nolva/day for the whole cycle just to be safe. if you still develope gyno then you up the dose to fight it.

the deca? well...if i were you...being that it's your first cycle...bring the deca down to 300mg/week. you see...deca can have pogesterone sides that would give you a duifferent type of gyno than test...hopefully you already knew that. though...i highly doubt that you will see any @300mg/week of deca.

also...yes...you should be able to break the 200lb mark with that cycle...especially because it's your first.

i cant help you with diet...and as for PCT? there is a whole section here on EF divoted to PCT questions...scroll down to the PLANTINUM MEMBER BOEARDS and it's the first section there...look for a guy named JENETIC...he's the PCT guru...good luck bro.
 
Dude, you should have researched more before starting this cycle. First of all, you should not have put test and deca together for your first cycle. If you get gyno, you won't know where it's coming from and it will not be as easily cured. Nolva can be taken 10mg a day throughout your cycle, or you can just use it when signs of gyno show. As for diet, it's the most important part of your cycle, and should have been taken care of before you started. Try reading old posts about diets for bulking. Good luck.
 
You need cabaser or Dosinex to combat Deca
I guess you don't have PCT either!

RADAR
 
It seems like the guys who have to tell you they did their reading never seem to know much. Its a major trend and a bad one at that when guys don't prepare enough to even make a believeable lie about the amount they researched. Sorry to hack on ya bro, but thats what I see going down.

That said, drop the deca and go solo with the prop. Why prop? LOL If you have a solid reason post it up, I'll retract. I'm betting there is no good reason. Man, if you haven't researched much, admit it and go back to reading. If you must proceed, just go with a longer acting test ester i.e. enanth or cyp. or sust. and run it for 10-12 weeks at 250-500mg. Keep the nolvadex until you need it. Close out withe the standard hcg to clom/nolv. which you MUST read up on in PCT forum. Listen to jenetic, but read before hassling the man with dumb questions. There is no way to fool reality bro, you can post that you know whats up but it won't save you in the real deal. Best of luck bro. Peace.
 
I did my share of reading on these boards before i started but i admit i am far from an expert that is why i am at these boards.. if i knew everything i wouldn't be seeking advice.. I am doing test/deca solely because i was told it was a good combo to do from a friend who has been juiced for several years that is why i chose this combo.. As for the PCT i am asking if i can continue taking the nolva or should i change to clomid because i've read to stay away from clomid due to the sides.. seeing that most of this board is very opinionated i am seeking opinions and advice seeing that i am a first time user... this is the first post i have ever seen someone say do not mix test and deca
 
nutsnack said:
I did my share of reading on these boards before i started but i admit i am far from an expert that is why i am at these boards.. if i knew everything i wouldn't be seeking advice.. I am doing test/deca solely because i was told it was a good combo to do from a friend who has been juiced for several years that is why i chose this combo.. As for the PCT i am asking if i can continue taking the nolva or should i change to clomid because i've read to stay away from clomid due to the sides.. seeing that most of this board is very opinionated i am seeking opinions and advice seeing that i am a first time user... this is the first post i have ever seen someone say do not mix test and deca
hey bro a fellow ectomorph, i think all that is needed is nolvadex, but it depends on your body, i don't have trouble recovering, i also don't need test with my deca. check out my deca alone post and you'll see what kind of gains i got off just deca 600 a week. pm me if you want help, always looking to help a fellow ecto, took me forever to start putting on mass.
 
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