First timer - Needing advice on Winny

[Crossing Over]

Hopefully I will not get flamed to bad on this but here goes.

A little about me.

I am 5'10 about 210 - 215 Lbs. I have been training for about 3 years. I currently work as a Strength Coach hoping to get my CSCS by the end of the year.

Well, I decided to cross over (hence the name). Well, i did my research and decided that the benefits vs risks of wnstrol was soemthign i could handle for a first time cycle. I do not know if there will ever be a second but that is to be seen.

I am getting the steroids from a friend who I trust that also has used the gear from the dealer. 200 bucks for 20 viles of Winstrol.

With all the research i have found, I came across many stacks but nothing that says anythign about a straight winstrol cycle. I tried doing a search for winstrol and there were tons of pages. I found 1 post that stated that Winny alone is not a good cycle. I am not sure why this is. 1 web site that i found said that 500mgs of Winny would be good but did not give a good split (ie 200 on mondays 150 Wed, 150 thurs).

I am getting nervous because i wanted to begin on Monday. I would have searched more but either my computer or the site was runnign slow and it was taking forever to go from post to post.

I am looking to gain minor strength gains and help fix some muscle imbalances (Mostly in the legs). I also would like to add definition at a stage where I cannot afford to diet (I usually kick off the season with a CKD ). I am currently in the early stages of a strength routine but not to the point where hypertrophy cannot happen. I do not want any super obvious gains due to my job. I have to keep the use from clients.

If I made any sense, and anybody out there can help me, pelase do. I am getting very nervous about doing this. And i have everything else in order (even a parametic to do the injections if I need).

 

[drrman]

20 amps, im assuming zambons since thats the only legit ampule made. those are great shit bro, if you only have 20, take 1 EOD until you run out, thats the best way to run it, and it will shut you down, so you may want to research post cycle routines, personally i would run a little test with it, no cycle is complete without test in my book! but nonetheless, you should have some nice gains, your joints will probably ache like a mofo though

 

[cdownie927]

I totally agree with drrman do it the way he said im doing it eod with sus and eq but doing it at the end until post therpy

 

[Crossing Over]

WoW!! A newbue can ask a question and not get flamed! A very pleasant surpise.

I have heard mixed things in the past few hours ( I was on the phone and IM with some people).

A friend said every third day I should take 1 amp.

Monday, Thursday, Sunday..... Until empty.


Now I am wondering about coming off. I was originally told that clomid, or other anti-E's were not needed with straight winstrol. I am concerned about this...I was thinking about using M (by Biotest) just in case, but now I am not sure if I should get the clomid instead just to be safe.


it seems that all my reseach i have done in the past month or so (of serious research) is all getting mixed up. I tried to do the right thing and find out what I needed and then begin.

Oh - I did not want to stack because this is my first time and am nervous enough about how I am going to react. I still have the "do steroids and oyu will roll over and die" mentality in the back of mind. Although I know that sane usage is not dangerous, I am trying to get rid of years and years and years of brainwashing.

 

[drrman]

you don't need anit e's, mabye clomid to get you going again, but i don't like it either, do a search on post cycle routines, im not real up to date on those since i haven't been off in quite some time..... 3 a week won't keep the blood levels as good as EOD, the half life is like 36 hours i believe, so i'd go EOD for 40 days

 

[Juice Authority]

Hopefully I will not get flamed to bad on this but here goes.

You know it bothers me that newbies are scared to ask questins for fear that they will get flamed. That's fucked up and should not be tolerated. There is no such thing as a dumb question especially when it comes to your body and AS use. That being said, hopefully you find the information below originally posted by Big Cat useful to your research.

In defense of Stanozolol

Stanozolol is a methylated drug. That means it can be taken orally and be quite effective, but also displays a certain level of liver toxicity. We need to relativate these findings, toxicity is often overstated and it was found (14) that many cases where liver toxicity was determined based on aminotransferase levels were false positives when we looked at the CGT levels. Nonetheless some care should be taken. In general we advise no more than 6-8 weeks on any hepatoxic drug within normal doses (for stanazolol that is 50-100 mg per day) when taken orally and up to 10 weeks when injected (50-75 mg per day). After that ample time should be given to the liver to recover.

Stanozolol has no 3-keto group, which is in most cases essential for androgen binding. So it is far from the heavy androgen some would have you believe it is. But it does appear to exhibit good binding in some places. Like its parent, DHT, it seems to reduce some aromatase activity and it may guard against some progestagenic binding (15) as well (from nandrolone or trenbolone) although it is unlikely its affinity for the PR is strong enough to play a crucial role in that. It has been suggested that stanozolol may have good binding to the microsomal AR, which may explain its benefits as far as energy utilization. Both aerobic and anaerobic, stanozolol seems to exhibit a large increase in performance. Strength and explosiveness increase, and athletes seem to tire less fast. It has therefore been a favourite of many runners, both in shorter and longer distances. The main use here for us will then also be to assist in the maintaining and gaining of strength, rather than sheer mass, although its light anti-aromatase properties will also aid us in attaining a more fat-free body.

One reason, with regards to safety, why I chose to include stanozolol and not a more potent bulk-up agent as the oral component of this cycle, is because of its effects on tendons. It has long been a concern that steroid usage causes tendon damage. Directly it doesn’t of course, but as muscle size increases and strength increases, so does pressure on tendons. And since the tendons do not have a large degree of vascularity they cannot adapt as quickly as the muscle. Repeated strain causes microtraumata, and when enough microtraumata have built up, eventually the tendon will rupture. Stanozolol however, has been found to increase collagen synthesis (16) where testosterone did not. Collagen is a key component in fibrous tissue such as cartilage and tendons, and may therefore offer us the bonus effect of maintaining tendon health or even repairing damage of microtrauma, and keep our cartilage healthy so we can resist the pressure on our joints.

 

[FREAKZILLA1]

why not get more? you'd be happier with 1 amp a day for like 8 weeks. tell that greedy bitch to cough up the winny! he's holding out, trust me.

 

[jubei]

Anti e's would be a complete waste of time while on a cycle of winny because it doesn't aromatize. I would also add some test or maybe eq, but it seems that you want an all winny cycle. I think ed injections would be best especially if thats all your using but eod would be okay. e3d is not good.

 

[Only1eagle]

winny 1/2 life is close to 8hours
so anything longer than ED to me is a waste. Your lvls are fluctuating all over the scale!