First Time Anavar user

[J Freeze]

Hello!
In the past Ive done light cycles of test and deca -200-400 mg a week using hcg during cycle and serms after. This will be my first time taking an oral.............I want to start light since I dont know how my liver is going to react. So Im thinking of taking 25mg a day of Anavar for cutting purposes, and using it *alone* but Im confused as to the proper post cycle therapy regimen. I've read that serms like clomid and Nolv. are not needed as anavar doesnt convert to estrogen. So what is taken post cycle? At what point do you take it following the cycle? and do you take HCG during cycle to keep the testicles up, or is that unnecessary as well? lastly, would a 8 week cycle be appropriate for a first time oral steroid user?

 

[SlimJim300]

Bump -- I've heard conflicting information on this.

 

[nydj66]

At only 25mg/day of Var you may not shut down your natural testosterone production and not need PCT.

However, the idea behind PCT is that while you're on an AAS cycle, your natural testosterone production shuts down. Once you stop, your body will begin to produce estrogen in response to low hormone levels.

By taking Nolva or Clomid during PCT you block the effects of this extra estrogen so your body quickly begins producing testosterone again. So, regardless of whether the AAS you're taking aromatizes or not, you still need PCT.

 

[J Freeze]

At only 25mg/day of Var you may not shut down your natural testosterone production and not need PCT.

However, the idea behind PCT is that while you're on an AAS cycle, your natural testosterone production shuts down. Once you stop, your body will begin to produce estrogen in response to low hormone levels.

By taking Nolva or Clomid during PCT you block the effects of this extra estrogen so your body quickly begins producing testosterone again. So, regardless of whether the AAS you're taking aromatizes or not, you still need PCT.

So........bottom line is PCT couldnt hurt in this case..Thanks.

 

[tical]

definitely go with the PCT regardless of your dosage. I did 35mg/ed for 8 weeks and noticed a little shutdown at the end.

Better safe then sorry

 

[SlimJim300]

In this case, nolva only for 3 weeks?

 

[RADAR]

Good to see members doing their homework.


RADAR

 

[manny78]

PCt will not hurt but everyone is different. That's why "X" will pop 40mg for 8 weeks and not feel a loss of libido nor notice micro testicles while "Z" will feel like crap after a "bridge" of 20mg. Usually, 20mg/- is ok. I'd still keep some clomids and/or novaldex next to me just in case, but this ain't a tren cycle.

What I'd do no matter the dosage is take something for the liver (Tyler, Milk thistle, Glucorell, whatever you want...).

 

[JeSt3r]

wow how many times does it have to be said...."ANAVAR WILL SHUT YOU DOWN REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYONE SAYS" starting at even low doses...PCT is not sumthing to play around with...your spending the money might as well spend a little extra and keep ur gains

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

Iwould go with nolva only for PCT starting the very next day you discontinue the use of the oxandrolone, at 20-35 mg a day for 8 wks I`ll say 40 mg the first day then 20 mg wk 1, 10 mg wk2. period... correct me if im wrong.

 

[DIVISION]

Good to see members doing their homework.

Refreshing is the word that sums it up.

 

[Zagreus]

wow how many times does it have to be said...."ANAVAR WILL SHUT YOU DOWN REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYONE SAYS" starting at even low doses...PCT is not sumthing to play around with...your spending the money might as well spend a little extra and keep ur gains

Amongst others, I have been doing var only cycles for a while and at 40 mg ed my sex drive is not down at all. Taking PCT when it is not needed is not smart. Everyone is diffrent.

While I always have PCT on hand, I let my body tell me when I need it and with Var PCT is not always needed. Besides I dont know anyone who likes to take Clomid for the hell of it. Not even woman looking to get pregnant.

Zag-

 

[JeSt3r]

Amongst others, I have been doing var only cycles for a while and at 40 mg ed my sex drive is not down at all. Taking PCT when it is not needed is not smart. Everyone is diffrent.

While I always have PCT on hand, I let my body tell me when I need it and with Var PCT is not always needed. Besides I dont know anyone who likes to take Clomid for the hell of it. Not even woman looking to get pregnant.

Zag-

i never mentioned that its always needed....but its tested and proven that even at low doses Var can shut you down...

 

[mookie]

Hello!
In the past Ive done light cycles of test and deca -200-400 mg a week using hcg during cycle and serms after. This will be my first time taking an oral.............I want to start light since I dont know how my liver is going to react. So Im thinking of taking 25mg a day of Anavar for cutting purposes, and using it *alone* but Im confused as to the proper post cycle therapy regimen. I've read that serms like clomid and Nolv. are not needed as anavar doesnt convert to estrogen. So what is taken post cycle? At what point do you take it following the cycle? and do you take HCG during cycle to keep the testicles up, or is that unnecessary as well? lastly, would a 8 week cycle be appropriate for a first time oral steroid user?

I have done 5 var only cycles and never did pct but my last var cycle I did for 9 weeks at 40mgs and I felt a little shutdown had my bloodwork a month after the cycle and everything was normal. 8 weeks would be good and I would do at least 30mg unless you got the btg's then 25mg is good. I would do nolvadex for your pct do 20mg for 3 weeks the day after your done the var. Why risk it?

 

[Breeze]

Hello!
In the past Ive done light cycles of test and deca -200-400 mg a week using hcg during cycle and serms after. This will be my first time taking an oral.............I want to start light since I dont know how my liver is going to react. So Im thinking of taking 25mg a day of Anavar for cutting purposes, and using it *alone* but Im confused as to the proper post cycle therapy regimen. I've read that serms like clomid and Nolv. are not needed as anavar doesnt convert to estrogen. So what is taken post cycle? At what point do you take it following the cycle? and do you take HCG during cycle to keep the testicles up, or is that unnecessary as well? lastly, would a 8 week cycle be appropriate for a first time oral steroid user?

Hcg shouldn't be necessary for an anavar cycle. A little clomid should get you back on track. You may not need anything- if your balls are hanging low and everything seems normal, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

 

[J Freeze]

Sound advice from all.thank you!

 

[mixxin]

I started QV Anavar a week ago and stopped yesterday until I can figure out how to control the stomach bloating/constipation problem. I read that this is a side effect of Var. The bloated feeling suppresses your appetite!!

I am on week 7 of test. I thought I'd throw in some Var during the last 5 weeks of the cycle.