First test cycle - need help

[criptich]

Alright i've done ph's i wanna try my first test cycle. i've read and hear is cleaner and much more effective but the draw back is the bitch of injecting.
so my questions are what is the most comfortable pin size for injecting and what do i need for drawing

i want to do 10-12 weeks of test E only, nolvadex (howmany weeks after last pin and how much) and when to do HCG if needed at all
i wanted to try 250-400mg/w of test, but not sure yet what i want. either 250 or 500 if its easy to fill.
im 245 14% bf, 6'3 max is 395
lemme know some things i need to know for a simple cycle like this.
i obviously have all my staples needed like fish oil liver support(using tudca-liv51), etc

my fear is the injection i want it to be as comfortable as possible and prefer to inject in quads and shoulders and swap from left to right to shoulders

 

[joeblow12345]

If your going to run a test cycle then 250-500 mgs week is a good starting point. I got great results from 250 my first time so it's up to you. I would add an oral kicker though as the effects don't start kicking in for 4+ weeks. You can use a ph like katana v3 or epi if you want lean gains. If you don't mind a little bloat then dbol is a great kicker. Here is how I'd run it.

1-12 test e 250-500 mg week
1-4 dbol 30 mg day, or 1-6 katana or epi
1-6 n2guard
6-10 hcgenerate
1-12 adex as needed
10-14 hcg 500-1000 ius week

Pct 14-18
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Daa

Notice I didn't add nolvadex because its useless. If you have it just trash it.
For pin size I use an 18 gauge to draw and a 25 g 1 in to pin. Rotate spots every time, I use quads and delts, but glutes work we'll if you can reach them.


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[bigbassturd]

I agree with everything joe just said bro, great advice.

Katanadrol v3.0 for a kicker is a great start to a lean gains cycle.

And trash that nolva. Ntbm has sales going from time to time and if you catch it just right you can get great deals on pct.

Don't slack on your pct either bro, it's as important as the cycle itself. Without it, you'll lose what you gain and be back at square one.

 

[criptich]

Ye i def wont slack on PCT, i just wanna know what i need for it for test e. I want to know when to start the PCT and HCG and how much HCG. what im scared of is, and do i NEED adex as an AI for test only?

 

[bigbassturd]

Ye i def wont slack on PCT, i just wanna know what i need for it for test e. I want to know when to start the PCT and HCG and how much HCG. what im scared of is, and do i NEED adex as an AI for test only?

joe laid out a great pct for you bro, one I would advise too. You woukd start it two weeks after your last injection and run it for four weeks

HCG should be 250 to 500iu's twice a week on the two week break between the cycle and pct

As far as arimidex, I don't care for it. Aromasin is a better AI in my opinion. If you wanna use adex, that's fine, but be careful of estro rebound issues when you stop using it. Using forma in pct is a good way to stop that problem

 

[dylangemelli]

draw with 18 like joe said... for delts use a 25 1' for quads use a 23 1 1/2 ' quads are the easiest and least painful...

if you run 12 weeks of test then start hcg week 7-12 at 500 ius week... week 13-14 blast it at 1000 ius week...

you at least need to have an ai on hand but i recommend running it from the start... i prefer aromasin but if your using adex then dose it at .5 mg eod...

 

[criptich]

i can run a low dose AI then entire cycle and be fine without a strong AI during PCT? like i can run an OCT AI like erase during PCT and a bit past PCT?

 

[dylangemelli]

i can run a low dose AI then entire cycle and be fine without a strong AI during PCT? like i can run an OCT AI like erase during PCT and a bit past PCT?

run forma stanzol in pct... you can get it at mrsupps.com

 

[bigbassturd]

Forma is an AI and a phytoserm all in one bro

 

[criptich]

Okay if i do 500mg a week, do i do i inject every 3 days at 250? or once at 500 for test E.

 

[dylangemelli]

once every three days...

 

[maccy]

Okay if i do 500mg a week, do i do i inject every 3 days at 250? or once at 500 for test E.

2 times a week 250mg each

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