first test cycle advice

[moya]

250 is PLENTY for first... leaves room to increase later, avoid sides, and if a beginner cant make gains off double the max test of a normal healthy male... then there are other issues that need to be dealt with, like diet, rest and workout...

 

[XMAN.]

So shouldnt people with experiance recommend a amature try 250mgs first instead of doing straight 500. Anyway ive done up to 1000mgs of prop and shit you not 250mgs is just as effective without the moonface bloat.

actually i'm with u about that , i also prefer a beginner to start with a 250mg dose then mid cycle double it to 500mg, like:
week 1-5 : 250mg then week: 6-10: 500mg and at the end tappering down last 2 weeks 11 & 12 : week 11: 250mg , week 12 : 125mg and these 2 weeks includes hcg if not done during cycle, best way for not to crash.
this way a beginner will experience with 250mg at least the double of himself and with a proper diet and training everybody can gain on that with the least sides , then mid cycle when things start to stall just double it to 500mg which is still a moderate dosage and not much for sides.

btw even if the 250mg test is in an amp. and not in a 10ml vial i still split it into 2 halves and inject it twice a week, i put the other half in an empty sterile vial i buy from pharmacies or sometimes i manage to bring some from a hospital (the ones for blood tests).

 

[Discreet User]

First cycle? You will love the results!

My suggestion would be to run 500mg a week, with 4 caps of Beast and look into HCGenerate during the cycle and post cycle.

So given that, here is the universal post-cycle recovery program that will prime you natural test:
hcg
2 Weeks Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
1 Week Before End of Cycle: hcg @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
First Week post-cycle: hcg @ 1500IUs 2 times a week

Clomid
Day 1 Post Cycle: Clomid @ 300mg
Days 2-14: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Days 15-28: Clomid @ 50mg ED

nolva
Days 1-28: nolva @ 20mg ED

HCG does not need to be used in that high of dosages. 500iu - 3 times per week is plenty.

 

[gymjunkie09]

thanks for the tips bros, I'll probably start at 400mg and increase or decrease as needed, test e is twice a week right? so 200mg every tues and fri would be sufficient? I'm gonna have a lot of ?s I've done some research but I wanna make sure I get the most outta this without hurting myself lol

 

[tpeter]

250 is PLENTY for first... leaves room to increase later, avoid sides, and if a beginner cant make gains off double the max test of a normal healthy male... then there are other issues that need to be dealt with, like diet, rest and workout...

Come january im running my first cycle at 300mg but im also adding in VAR in the last 8 weeks.

I didnt want to go 500 off the bat. I want to see how i do with a small dose first.

 

[ashah1985]

thanks for the tips bros, I'll probably start at 400mg and increase or decrease as needed, test e is twice a week right? so 200mg every tues and fri would be sufficient? I'm gonna have a lot of ?s I've done some research but I wanna make sure I get the most outta this without hurting myself lol

Sounds good. What does your Pct look like?

 

[gymjunkie09]

Sounds good. What does your Pct look like?

still working on pct, havnt been on the site in awhile and have only ran otc cycles, ive done my research jus need to refresh my memory, but I will have that in order and on hand before starting anything

 

[XMAN.]

thanks for the tips bros, I'll probably start at 400mg and increase or decrease as needed, test e is twice a week right? so 200mg every tues and fri would be sufficient? I'm gonna have a lot of ?s I've done some research but I wanna make sure I get the most outta this without hurting myself lol

yes 200mg test e twice a week is the best approach , add hcg at 250 IU twice a week too ,use aromasin and clomid for pct ,good luck.

 

[gymjunkie09]

yes 200mg test e twice a week is the best approach , add hcg at 250 IU twice a week too ,use aromasin and clomid for pct ,good luck.

hcg throughout the whole cycle? and on the same day as the test or diff?

 

[XMAN.]

hcg throughout the whole cycle? and on the same day as the test or diff?

yes throughout the whole cycle (start week 2) , and yes on the same day as test u only have to pin twice a week this way, and stop it same as test at the end of the cycle, wait for a week and start pct.