First Steroid Cycle - Need Help

[gunpilot]

Ok, so I've decided to start my first cycle...here's my plan, tell me what you think:
8 week easy cycle
250 mg Test En / week
16 mg Winstrol oral / day

Introduce clomid at week 6 (depending on puffiness)
Clomid 50 mg / day for last two weeks + two weeks post cycle

Due to budget reasons, schedule, and current laws, I only want to make this a light/ simple cycle with only a few supplements to worry about. I am 6'2" 215 23%BF I would like to lose 10 lbs fat and gain 10 lbs muscle, retaining my original weight. If this is too light or not the right stack please let me know, I don't want to screw up my first cycle. I also have several sources (web based) I'd like to check, if any moderators would secure email me I'd love to run them by you. Email is the same as screename. Thanks all!

 

[mesco]

16mg of winstrol?

 

[letsrun4it]

why bother?

 

[gunpilot]

I don't know, I was reading that the normal dose was 16 - 30 mg or something like that. What is a normal dose? Should I go for more like 50? That's why I posted this, thanks guys!

 

[justinm13]

normal winny dose is 50-100mg if you want to go light id say a 35mg-50mg. May want to consider 4-6wk cycle of winny instead of 8 depending on dosage.

 

[gettnlarge01]

Stick with the test and drop the winny.Winny will not do you any good at that high of a bf%.Use the test,train hard,do cardio and eat right and you will see nice changes in 8wks.

 

[gunpilot]

So if I'm just doing Test is 250Mg/ week enough? Should I up it to 500Mg and just do the Test E/ Clomid?

 

[1968Charger]

Start Off At 250 And See How You Feel Then Bump It Up To 500 Mg

 

[gunpilot]

Just placed an order for Test E D-bol and clomid - I wanna us the d-bol to get a boost in the beginning but I will stick with 250/ week test e for 2 weeks until I know I can tolerate it. I am so excited to finally do this, I have wanted to make a change for so long. thanks guys for all your help!

 

[txmike]

Hi Gunpilot,
I'm new on this board and in my 2nd week of my first cycle. That makes me no expert. Until tonight I planned to add Winny to my cycle starting Sat, but I dropped it.
I read a long thread in the other AAS forum where a lot of guys took 50mg Winny at a time and their HDLs dropped out of site. Without a blood test they wouldn't have known, but one guy's numbers were so bad his doctor said he was prime for a stroke.
I've been looking at this too lightly just because I have the product. Thought I'd pass that on to you. If I need Winny, I'll check into more before I use it.

Good luck on your first cycle,
Mike