First steroid bulking cycle

[lurendrin]

Hi everyone, the names Luren.

Quick background. Been gyming for the past 6 years, when I started I weighed 52kg and height 1.79m tall. I started training At gym with my buddies and have taken it very seriously the past 3 years, supplementing with mass gainer proteins and creatine mostly. To date, I have gained 21 kgs.

for the past year though, I have been struggling to make any further shattering progress and am looking to start a bulking steroid cycle. I have, this past year tried an anavar only cycle which helped to lose some body fat but not much else. I used 50mg ED for 7 weeks. And nolva pct for 3 weeks.

I have been researching cycles and stacks and specific steroids and side effects and PCTS for the past year as well but I would like some direct advise as I have not asked yet. I also do not want to influence anyone and would like honest feedback.

Here's some of my stats:
age: 25
weight: 73kgs
height: 1.79m

body fat: 12%
Arm: 34cm
waist: 77cm
thigh: 47cm
chest: 103cm

I have a nutritionist I have been seeing for the past couple of months and have a strict diet i follow which helped me drop from 19% to 12% body fat.
Pits basically 7 meals a day, 4000 calories everyday, mostly whey protein, chicken low of vegetables, sweet potato, tuna, eggs, oats, almonds, flaxseed oil, low gi brown bread, cottage cheese and then my post workout massgainer shake

supplements:
Local whey protein
Universal real gains
BCAAs
Glutamine powder

My training is 5 days a week atleast for about 1.5 hours and mostly free weights. I'm always upping my weight and after a while I try to change things up as well as taking a few breaks for my body to recover, after a few months.

your advise and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you need me to provide further information, just ask.

 

[BigLP]

If anavar is only AAS youve tried, why not just give a 12 wk test e cycle a shot? Possibly dbol kickstart?

 

[musclei]

Have you looked into a 10 weeker of 500mg Test-e? I at least, consider that to be the standard first cycle for everyone.

 

[musclei]

If anavar is only AAS youve tried, why not just give a 12 wk test e cycle a shot? Possibly dbol kickstart?

Just as good an option.

 

[nickb86]

right i would look 1st into your routine and see about maybe changing afew things 1.5hrs a day and 5 days a week may be abit much and that could stop you from gaining, however that said you seem to know what youre doing and im assuming youve dabbled with this route but i would take time and have a little mix up to see if you get any further.
As far as steroids are concerned i would run a 12 weeks test e cycle, nothing else is needed and youll gain very well, let your body adapt and react to indervidual componds rather than throwing 2 or 3 at it, because if you react badly yourll know what caused it. have a look into dosages as they are a personal thing but id go with 500mg as you wanna get all that you can.
Id stack it up like this:
1-12 test E 500mg split x2 a week Mon/Thursday
2-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (your on cycle Ai deals with eastrogen and bloat etc)
4-12 hcgenerate (for your balls to prevent atrophy)
12-13 HCG 500ius x2 a week (again for your balls gives them a little kick start b4 pct, you may not need it as you have the hcgenerate, but id include to be safe)
Pct.
14-17 clomid 25/25/25/25 (serm to restore testicular function)
14-17 unleashed/postcycle (recovery products very good)
14-19 Forma stanzol (acts an ai in pct, awesome product to many good bits to mention)
14-17/19 Daa 3g's a day (boosts test and helpsrecovery)

makesure you know why everythings where it is and youll be set to go buddy, hope this helps and happy gaining.

 

[rich_89]

1-10 Testosterone Enanthate (2 x 250mg per week)
1-4 Beastdrol (30mg per day is the sweet spot)
6-10 HCGenerate (2 caps am 3 caps pm)
1-4 N2 Guard (7 caps daily)

Forma stanzol (as required throughout) (5-10 pumps daily should be enough to keep sides at bay. Increase this in the advent of sides)

PCT
11-14 Unleashed/Post Cyle combo (3 caps daily spread out of each)
11-15 Forma stanzol (5 pumps am 5 pumps pm) an then utnil the bottle has finished.

Good first cycle for you there bro.

 

[Jack steel]

Have you looked into a 10 weeker of 500mg Test-e? I at least, consider that to be the standard first cycle for everyone.

500 mg is not a good first cycle. Do 250-300mg a week my friend and you'll be very satisfied! 500 is too much and not necessary. I have about 5-6 cycles under my belt, and I'm only just now doing my first cycle of 500mg test enanthate. Never run it this high before. Start low and reap the benefits of your receptor sensitivity before you bump it so high.

 

[rich_89]

500 mg is not a good first cycle. Do 250-300mg a week my friend and you'll be very satisfied! 500 is too much and not necessary. I have about 5-6 cycles under my belt, and I'm only just now doing my first cycle of 500mg test enanthate. Never run it this high before. Start low and reap the benefits of your receptor sensitivity before you bump it so high.

This is great advice, assuming your gear is pharma-grade, or a very high quality, tried and tested UG lab. But likely it won't be.

Most gear these days is under dosed, and jabbing 250-300mg a week is worthless for a quality bulking cycle.

500mg is a good 'standard'. I'd recommend going with that.

 

[jondale123]

Why is it on every forum across the internet thay all give advice like they are a pro bodybuilder. Man if you really want to know the truth. If you afraid, you will never get big. If you are not pulling the pluger all the way back then your wasting your time. All the top pros were juiced to the gills since they started they did not do a little. But hey if you want to get big then go for it. Thats my honest opionion. Genetics do not matter. "BODYBUILDING IS ALL DRUGS!!! genetics mean nothing.... kevin leverone on hrt is small and looks normal... and while you and a lot of guys live bb 24/7 eating dry chicken every 3 hours and do everything right, they laugh inside.. lol... he could be top 5 in big shows in a couple of months if he wanted to.... people dont get it... lol... but you saw kevin off the megadoses..." "If you wanne get big dont take barely theropeutic doses."bottom line is this: if you're afraid of the needle, you'll never be LARGE. and if you're gonna' go that route,...what I consider the ONLY route, make it count, brahs, if you're not running at least 3+ grams per week, you're wasting your time...my 2 cents" Quoate from a big friend.......... This is just my single opionion about this. You still need to know what drugs to take and have blood work done ect.

 

[Pound4PoundAAS]

Why is it on every forum across the internet thay all give advice like they are a pro bodybuilder. Man if you really want to know the truth. If you afraid, you will never get big. If you are not pulling the pluger all the way back then your wasting your time. All the top pros were juiced to the gills since they started they did not do a little. But hey if you want to get big then go for it. Thats my honest opionion. Genetics do not matter. "BODYBUILDING IS ALL DRUGS!!! genetics mean nothing.... kevin leverone on hrt is small and looks normal... and while you and a lot of guys live bb 24/7 eating dry chicken every 3 hours and do everything right, they laugh inside.. lol... he could be top 5 in big shows in a couple of months if he wanted to.... people dont get it... lol... but you saw kevin off the megadoses..." "If you wanne get big dont take barely theropeutic doses."bottom line is this: if you're afraid of the needle, you'll never be LARGE. and if you're gonna' go that route,...what I consider the ONLY route, make it count, brahs, if you're not running at least 3+ grams per week, you're wasting your time...my 2 cents" Quoate from a big friend.......... This is just my single opionion about this. You still need to know what drugs to take and have blood work done ect.

You're recommending 3G/week to someone on their first cycle? They'll have more oil in them than my fucking truck let alone the havoc that will do to their endocrine system.

 

[musclei]

500 mg is not a good first cycle. Do 250-300mg a week my friend and you'll be very satisfied! 500 is too much and not necessary. I have about 5-6 cycles under my belt, and I'm only just now doing my first cycle of 500mg test enanthate. Never run it this high before. Start low and reap the benefits of your receptor sensitivity before you bump it so high.

Dude, I'm reading the same advice on a couple of threads I wrote about doing a first cycle of 500mg test. To each their own and if some of you guys are starting that low and getting good results then great, but in other forums 500mg is considered the standard for a first timer.

It doesn't look like that much either: I'd say it's 4x the amount a man produces naturally.

 

[jondale123]

Not saying take 3000mg's just saying if you want to get big your not going to be able to take small amounts. I took tren my firsat cycle was not bad. Sometimes I feel that stuff is horribly overhyped . As being to strong or what not. If you the size of the pros you gotta juice like the pros and if you wan that size you have to understand you will be on hrt for the rest of your life along with alot of other stuff.....

 

[Jack steel]

Dude, I'm reading the same advice on a couple of threads I wrote about doing a first cycle of 500mg test. To each their own and if some of you guys are starting that low and getting good results then great, but in other forums 500mg is considered the standard for a first timer.

It doesn't look like that much either: I'd say it's 4x the amount a man produces naturally.

That's fine man. I know it's bro science basically to start at 500. I'm just saying that's higher than you need. You can get away with less gear and less money if you start smaller and allow the gear to do its job. Sorry if I sounded snotty on that one. I wasn't trying to make you sound dumb, But 500 is too high for a first cycle if you want to start from the beginning truly. Doesn't matter how many dudes say it on a hundred forums. I'm sure there are literally thousands of threads with guys still recommending nolvadex in pct too and that's cow turd advice right there. Don't look to forums for facts.