first REAL aas cycle. questions

[Guitarhead]

alright. i am 21. 5'9. 186 lbs. bout a 4 pack kinda. not as toned, just started to get vascular and cut.

just came off of pro hormone sus 500. 3 week cycle. stopped becuz started to get gyno. got scared. sore/puffy nips for 4 days. novedex xt and liver fix as current pct. i dont have lumps i just think i retained water round nips. lookin better now. but 2 weeks left of pct then was gonna get some gear whilei have cash.

i want to get strong and pack some lean muscle. i dont wanna chance gyno since i am gyno prone.

max bench is 315 now. i have a good diet and new routine ready to go.

i was going to do a better pct like nolva, do i need to take just pct or on cycle as well or not at all becuase the do not armotize.

k i just dont want gyno. what dose do u recommend. and help greatly appreciated
i was thinking of oral winstrol or anavar .

 

[Makavelli]

alright. i am 21. 5'9. 186 lbs. bout a 4 pack kinda. not as toned, just started to get vascular and cut.

just came off of pro hormone sus 500. 3 week cycle. stopped becuz started to get gyno. got scared. sore/puffy nips for 4 days. novedex xt and liver fix as current pct. i dont have lumps i just think i retained water round nips. lookin better now. but 2 weeks left of pct then was gonna get some gear whilei have cash.

i want to get strong and pack some lean muscle. i dont wanna chance gyno since i am gyno prone.

max bench is 315 now. i have a good diet and new routine ready to go.

i was going to do a better pct like nolva, do i need to take just pct or on cycle as well or not at all becuase the do not armotize.

k i just dont want gyno. what dose do u recommend. and help greatly appreciated
i was thinking of oral winstrol or anavar .

I don't recommend oral only cycles, as most others will say the same. If you are not opposed to needles and don't want to use test I would at least add in some EQ. I would run 600 mgs/wk of EQ for 12 weeks and run either winstrol or var at 50-60 mgs/day for the last 8 weeks. If you will not run an injectable and are stuck on the oral only, then bump up the dosage to 100 mgs/day of either one.

 

[LUANG_GO]

I don't recommend oral only cycles, as most others will say the same. If you are not opposed to needles and don't want to use test I would at least add in some EQ. I would run 600 mgs/wk of EQ for 12 weeks and run either winstrol or var at 50-60 mgs/day for the last 8 weeks. If you will not run an injectable and are stuck on the oral only, then bump up the dosage to 100 mgs/day of either one.

agree..for your frist cycle I would do it right..because more than likely you will gain most of your gains off your frist cycle...then cut later...

The old school bread and butter cycle

1-4 30mg dbol
1-12 400-500mg test
1-10 400mg deca...

You will not regret that cycle at all...promise!

 

[Guitarhead]

needdles do not bother me. i just do not want gyno.!!! thats why i am hesitant . because im gyno prone.

 

[wolfman87]

skip the deca for your first cycle. just do a simple dbol/test cycle. the less compounds the better because if something goes wrong you know what it was. as for gyno just get some aromasin or arimidex and you're good to go!

 

[Guitarhead]

what bout injectable winstrol

 

[Makavelli]

what bout injectable winstrol

Winstrol is one of my favs, but I have to take it orally. Since you don't want gyno, I would go with 500 mgs test a week, but with an AI. That's very important. You can add in the winstrol the last 6-8 weeks.

 

[Guitarhead]

i mean i got gyno from 3 weeks of sus 500. and thats justa ph. was my anit estrogent just not strong enough.... just for summer and first time. is injectable winni. not ok and then test in the fall??

 

[LUANG_GO]

i mean i got gyno from 3 weeks of sus 500. and thats justa ph. was my anit estrogent just not strong enough.... just for summer and first time. is injectable winni. not ok and then test in the fall??

run letro through the cycle 1.25mg EOD. I have to do that with every cycle that has test in it...

 

[Makavelli]

run letro through the cycle 1.25mg EOD. I have to do that with every cycle that has test in it...

Yep. That will take care of any estro related probs.

 

[Guitarhead]

so yall say no to just winstrol . oral or injectable?

 

[-SD-]

so yall say no to just winstrol . oral or injectable?

you can drink winstrol

 

[LUANG_GO]

you can drink winstrol

Just say "no" LOL...use the pills bro

 

[Makavelli]

so yall say no to just winstrol . oral or injectable?

You can add it, but it's still a good idea to use 500 mgs/wk of test and an AI. Winstrol only cycles tend to yield little in terms of permanent gains.