first mass gain cycle

[danro52]

hey im 5'8 166 and want to gain some serious weight in 10 weeks
for my first cycle..... i've been working out most of my life
i m thinking of two cycles

one
300mg/week 1-10 of sust
30mg/d week 1-5 of dbol
and clomid

two
250mg/week 1-10 of sust
20mg/d week 1-5 dbol
and clomid


When is the best time for cloimd moring, night with food what kind of clean food

also sitting at 3500 cal and 300g protein a day
whats liquidex all about do i need it and how can i use it

any comments please help

 

[Realgains]

I wouldn't do d-bol at all as there is no need for this 17aa roid IMO.

Try this...........front load the sust at 600 on day one and then do injections of 200-225 every three days with the first injection 3 days after the load. It is best to inject the sust this often due to the prop ester in the mix.
Don't let the small front load worry ya. It is less of a "shock" than 30 of d-bol per day thats for sure. Front load to get blood levels up quickly so as to not waste ant time. You then don't need an oral like d-bol to get things moving right away.

Run it for 8 weeks and then stop. Hit the clomid three weeks after the last shot at 300mg on day on in divided doses and then 50-100 mg for ten days and then another 50 per day for ten days.

It doesn't matter when you take clomid as it has a 5 day half life.
You can take it with food if it upsets your stomach....doubt it though.

Better have nolvadex on hand just in case

 

[padycakes_16]

do sust at 300mgs and dbol at 25mg ed you will be happy

liquidex preverts the conversion of test to estrogen do you dont bloat up, and get bitch tits, very good but very expensive (about 300$ canadian a bottle good for a couple of cycles), ill tell ya about the clomid later and how to use

peace

 

[Realgains]

You could use the liquidex instead of nolva to prvent gyno and keep the water gain down to almost zero but it isn't cost effective and isn't needed in this cycle. Also estrogen inhibitors like liquidex really mess with your cholesterol profile as does the 17aa d-bol. The combo of d-bol and an inhibitor is bad news for your hdl/ldl ration bro..........don't use either one.

Use the clomid like I said bro!

 

[go_hard_80]

hey danro

ive actually done basicaly the same cycle ans listed on the bottom, i gained 32lbs and settled down at 25lb gain, that was awesome enjoy your cycle bro

 

[jc21]

i agree with realgains...there is no need for dbol on the first cycle. go with test/deca cycle for the first one. i also think sust is a bad test for your first cycle since it does have fast acting esters in it. i recommend enanthate or cyp.

 

[Wrongun]

IMO i think this is the classic mass builder

Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
Dianabol - 35mg per day, for 6 weeks

Here the Deca should be 400mg for optimum effects, and the Dianabol at the onset helps kick start the cycle while you are waiting for the longer acting Deca and test to take effect.

Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 3 weeks after last Decca jab. You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen or Arimidex.

The dosage of Dianabol may be divided out through out the day and taken every 3-4 hrs as it has such a short half-life. Take them with / after a protein-based meal.

The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

Hope this helps and IMHO and has worked for many


Wrongun!

 

[danro52]

thanks for all the replies ill post my progress and final results