first injectable cycle help

[hype859]

hi thinking of doing my first injectable cycle now i have looked into it enough and feel i am ready i am 23 5"10 12st,6pounds which i think is 175lbs and am debating which to run out of 500mg sustanon 250 mon 250 thur or 250 sus mon 250 deca thur what in your opinion would be the better 1st cycle? also i hav some nolva on hand but was wondering if i would need clomid or not after this cycle?

 

[swordfish151]

hi thinking of doing my first injectable cycle now i have looked into it enough and feel i am ready i am 23 5"10 12st,6pounds which i think is 175lbs and am debating which to run out of 500mg sustanon 250 mon 250 thur or 250 sus mon 250 deca thur what in your opinion would be the better 1st cycle? also i hav some nolva on hand but was wondering if i would need clomid or not after this cycle?

Stick with just the test...250-500mgs of sust for first cycle is a good one...you'll need nolva on hand for gyno, nolva for PCT and your going to want to get your hands on some HCG... what are you trying to accomplish with this cycle? how is your diet?...good luck

 

[hype859]

my diet is relitivly low in carbs and very clean 250 350 grams of protien around 150 200 grams carbs which i will up while on cycle id like to gain as much solid muscle as poss ideally around a stone keepable if possible is this realistic what os hgc and how would i run it? many thanks for such fast reply

 

[swordfish151]

my diet is relitivly low in carbs and very clean 250 350 grams of protien around 150 200 grams carbs which i will up while on cycle id like to gain as much solid muscle as poss ideally around a stone keepable if possible is this realistic what os hgc and how would i run it? many thanks for such fast reply

Your going to want to up your cals and your macros if your looking to gain size....meaning you clearly are going to have to eat alot more...as far as HCG..here is a link to the PCT board...read it.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

 

[hype859]

cool so 5 days after last injection i start hgc how much would you suggest i would need and how long for? as this is a 1st cycle and from what i gather a relitivly small one after 8/10 weeks 500mg sus?

 

[Ulter]

Use 1000iu/day for ten days of HCG.
Do not shoot by the day of the week. Shoot every 3 days or every 4 days.
Use AIFM thoughout your cycle and PCT. DO NOT USE NOLVA FOR THIS CYCLE OR FOR PCT. You don't use nolva with deca.

 

[swordfish151]

Use 1000iu/day for ten days of HCG.
Do not shoot by the day of the week. Shoot every 3 days or every 4 days.
Use AIFM thoughout your cycle and PCT. DO NOT USE NOLVA FOR THIS CYCLE OR FOR PCT. You don't use nolva with deca.

Really...i've used nolva many times with deca and had no problems whatsoever...so instead of nolva what would you recommend?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

nolva increases progesterone receptor expression. for some people this may not be an issue (it may even be a boon of sorts). However if you are sensitive to progestins, nolva may make it MORE likely that you get progestenic sides.

aromatase inhibitors reduce PR expression

 

[hype859]

thats just it most ppl are tellin me to save deca for a future cycle so i was gonna run 250 sus mon 250 sus thur or is this to much?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

no thats a normal dosage