First Fina Cycle

[Vegaman]

I've been researching and looking through old threads and have decided on a Fina cycle. I have decided to make it myself and have read different opinions that I should take 50mg's ed or 150 mg's eod. This is my first cycle only and Fina seems to be the easiest product to get. Just trying to get some more opinions on what an appropriate starting dose would be. I think that either way, I only need one cartridge of 10 pellets to complete a first cycle. Also, would it be fine to take Fina alone or should I add something else? Is there any problems ordering one cartridge and getting it sent to Canada?

My stats:

5'8
185lbs
14%bf
29 yrs

Been lifting naturally for a while now.

Thanks.

 

[HighIntensity]

um one catridge will only allow you 2 do 75mgs EOD

or 37.5 mgs ED


basically 1 cc EoD or 1/2 cc ED

which should be fine for a first time user doing 6 weeks

 

[frorider6]

Every Fina thread I see I'm going to say the same thing. Start at a low dose and see how your body reacts. 75 mg ED gave my sore puffy nips in 5 days! They've gone back to normal and now I've scaled back to 37.5 mg (1/2cc) EOD. I'll do this for a week or 2, then bump it up to 37.5 mg ED.

Take it slow since there's really nothing definitive that prevents the progesterone sides,

 

[Vegaman]

So a Fina only cycle would be fine then? Would I need any clomid?

 

[Diesel3d]

So a Fina only cycle would be fine then? Would I need any clomid?

yes it shuts you down hard.

 

[frorider6]

So a Fina only cycle would be fine then? Would I need any clomid?

From what I've learned (I'm no expert but I researched it a lot), you need...

Proviron 50 mg ED to help you keep your libido and erections
Vitex 1500 mg ED to help lower prolactin levels. Available at GNC for cheap.
Nolvadex 30 mg ED to lower IGF-1 levels which may be a contributing factor to Fina gyno. Many don't need this, I absolutely do.

Oh yeah, standard Clomid therapy starting 3 days after last shot.

 

[Audio8]

basically 1 cc ED or 1/2 cc EOD

I think you meant to say 1/2cc ED or 1cc EOD.

Yes fina only is fine. Expect mostly strength gains, some mass gains, and slightly decreased BF.

 

[Vegaman]

Yah, I'm ready to do the injections although I've read they can be quite painful. I figure I'll go with eod to start. I've been reading that the quad is the best place to go.

I take it that Clomid, Novaldex and Proviron are only available from sources. Does anyone just use Fina and none of these other things? Just wondering as it may be hard to get the other stuff. I know people use Fina, Winny and others together but I'm wondering if I absolutely need the Novaldex and Proviron.

 

[HighIntensity]

maca can also be used to keep your libo strong

 

[FreakMonster]

Fina injections have never been painful for me. Try Sustenon and you will be crying

 

[frorider6]

maca can also be used to keep your libo strong

What's maca?

FreakMonster - at least you found something that doesn't hurt for you. My Fina still hurts, but not near as bad as Sust.

 

[FreakMonster]

What's maca?

FreakMonster - at least you found something that doesn't hurt for you. My Fina still hurts, but not near as bad as Sust.

That's wierd man. Do you make your own Fina?

Sust knots up like a motherfucker when I used it for the first time.
I made the mistake of shooting 2 cc's in my quad and I could barely walk for 3 days. I had to tell everyone I got hit with a baseball, LOL.

 

[HighIntensity]

What's maca?

FreakMonster - at least you found something that doesn't hurt for you. My Fina still hurts, but not near as bad as Sust.

Fro maca is an herb that can be used like clomid, in some studies men who took maca made 200% more sperm than those without it.

 

[Old Guy]

Yah, I'm ready to do the injections although I've read they can be quite painful. I figure I'll go with eod to start. I've been reading that the quad is the best place to go.

If your Fina is clean and you inject slowly you shouldn't have pain.
I don't know about quad shots though, never done 'em.

 

[Vegaman]

Thanks for all the info guys. One more question. Is gyno a concern with Fina?

 

[Audio8]

Thanks for all the info guys. One more question. Is gyno a concern with Fina?

it's really only a concern if you stack fina with another drug that induces pro-gyno. Otherwise, most people don't even get ichy nips from fina alone.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

YES GYNO IS A CONCERN

YES, I did fina alone and got gyno symptoms so I stopped immediately. I had done other cycles with NO GYNO. Tried a Fina alone cycle and nipples got puffy and SENSITIVE in week 2. Forget about using anti-e's because Fina doesn't cause gyno that way. Instead, it is progesterone related gyno. Vitex might help ($10 at GNC) because it reduced prolactin. It's been stated that Winstrol might help because it binds to PR.

Really the best thing to do is take it slow and see what happens. I was doing 50mg ED. I thought this was light but apparently my body didnt like it.

Now Nolvadex significantly reduces IGF-1 levels which can cause PR gyno but hell raising the IGF levels are what makes tren so good at making you bigger and stronger. So you'd be fighting against yourself that way.

Do a SEARCH on Fina AND Gyno and do some reading.

I'm not saying it is a bad first cycle, probably a good one. Every AS has it's pitfalls. You just have to pick and choose, prepare and be careful.

 

[theoak01]

can you buy provirion and maca at a supp shop

 

[slugger45]

If your Fina is clean and you inject slowly you shouldn't have pain.
I don't know about quad shots though, never done 'em.

My first injection I did was a quad shot of fina. It didn't hurt that bad, just a little soreness afterward. The actual injecting of the fina caused no pain at all, I made sure to go real slow, about 45 sec.-1 minute for 1 cc. The rest of my shots have been ass shots, I switch between the left and right every day.
I just get a little queasy right before I inject it, and I tense up some, which i know i shouldn't do. It's all well worth it though.

 

[theoak01]

can anyone answer my question

 

[FreakMonster]

can you buy provirion and maca at a supp shop

No you cannot buy Proviron at the supp shop