First Cypionate cycle. help please

[GTL_fo_Sho]

Im 5'10, 175, 21 years old, 10% BF.
I am one week and 3 days into my first cycle.As for my diet I try and eat as much clean food as I can during all times of the day. Im guessing I eat more then 5000 calories a day. I eat more Protein then 2 grams/ lb of body weight and enough fats from nuts and fish.

Anyways I have started a cycle and since it is my first one I have made it very simple
Regarding cypionate I am going to do a 10 week cycle

Test Cyp- 500ml.. 1 time/ week
Arimidex- .5mg .... 2 times/ week

starting week 3 i will introduce anavar from week 3-9
anavar- 50mg... Every day

Starting week 10-12 I will introduce Clenbutero
Im not sure on the dosage for this yet... I am currently looking into it

As for my PCT's ... Not sure on the dosages for these yet either and trying to find out if these PCT's are the best ones to use with this cycle

Nolvadex
hcg

Also, I have been on for 1 week and 3 days as i clarified before and i have gained about 15lbs but I dont see any gain in muscle just alot of water weight and fat gain. Ive been reading alot and I've read that the weight gain is good because i need it to grow into and the muscle gains dont start kicking in until about the fourth week. Any comments on this will help me a great deal because it's psyching me out and making me feel like its not working


Any advice is greatly appreciated. I look forward to all of your responses.

(remember I am a week and a half into my cycle already)

Thank you

 

[TESTONITE]

What you are planning will work, If it were me, I would use the arimidex or nolvadex throughout the cycle, I see no need for both. If you go with nolvadex then 20 mg daily should be sufficient. When you start your clenbuterol I would start dose at 20 mcgs two to three times daily, this should raise your body temp to some degree, use your body temp to stay at a good dose, you can up your clen to as much as 60 to 100 mcgs two to three times daily. as for PCT's I would go with I would run your HCG at 500 to 1000 iu's per day for the last two weeks of the cycle then after your last injection of test you should drop the HCG because it can aromatize itself, I would then go with clomid for 3 wks. 300mgs on day 7 after your last test shot. then 100mg daily for the remaining three wks, you can also run 20 mg nolvadex daily for a couple wks with the clomid. The HCG will work better during the end of the cycle then loading up afterwards. That's about all of my opinion. hope this helps man. BTW, clomid is very cheap and very effective, you should have no problem finding it.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Im 5'10, 175, 21 years old, 10% BF.
I am one week and 3 days into my first cycle.As for my diet I try and eat as much clean food as I can during all times of the day. Im guessing I eat more then 5000 calories a day. I eat more Protein then 2 grams/ lb of body weight and enough fats from nuts and fish.

Anyways I have started a cycle and since it is my first one I have made it very simple
Regarding cypionate I am going to do a 10 week cycle

Test Cyp- 500ml.. 1 time/ week
Arimidex- .5mg .... 2 times/ week

starting week 3 i will introduce anavar from week 3-9
anavar- 50mg... Every day

Starting week 10-12 I will introduce Clenbutero
Im not sure on the dosage for this yet... I am currently looking into it

As for my PCT's ... Not sure on the dosages for these yet either and trying to find out if these PCT's are the best ones to use with this cycle

Nolvadex
hcg

Also, I have been on for 1 week and 3 days as i clarified before and i have gained about 15lbs but I dont see any gain in muscle just alot of water weight and fat gain. Ive been reading alot and I've read that the weight gain is good because i need it to grow into and the muscle gains dont start kicking in until about the fourth week. Any comments on this will help me a great deal because it's psyching me out and making me feel like its not working


Any advice is greatly appreciated. I look forward to all of your responses.

(remember I am a week and a half into my cycle already)

Thank you

What are your goals here bro ? 5000 cals a day says you are bulking.

VAR is a great compound but not usually ran as part of a bulker.
IMO you would have been better off running beastdrol for the first 4 weeks and pinning your test twice a week not once.

stable blood levels = less sides.

Clen during a bulk cycle ? ...am not a big fan of the stuff - so i'll sayin nothing !

PCT - Read the stickie best PCT 2010 .its got all you need to know.

 

[TESTONITE]

I gotta agree with columbo on the var and clen, I was just responding to your dosing question. Some drol or d bol would go good for a first bulking cycle along with your test, I personally go every 4th/5th day on injections so be sure you have enough to run 10 wks. If all you have is the var then use it but if you have options, use them. If you get some drol or dbol run it the first 4 wks or find another variation, Other than that good luck!

 

[GTL_fo_Sho]

What you are planning will work, If it were me, I would use the arimidex or nolvadex throughout the cycle, I see no need for both. If you go with nolvadex then 20 mg daily should be sufficient. When you start your clenbuterol I would start dose at 20 mcgs two to three times daily, this should raise your body temp to some degree, use your body temp to stay at a good dose, you can up your clen to as much as 60 to 100 mcgs two to three times daily. as for PCT's I would go with I would run your HCG at 500 to 1000 iu's per day for the last two weeks of the cycle then after your last injection of test you should drop the HCG because it can aromatize itself, I would then go with clomid for 3 wks. 300mgs on day 7 after your last test shot. then 100mg daily for the remaining three wks, you can also run 20 mg nolvadex daily for a couple wks with the clomid. The HCG will work better during the end of the cycle then loading up afterwards. That's about all of my opinion. hope this helps man. BTW, clomid is very cheap and very effective, you should have no problem finding it.

I am taking arimidex throughout the cycle and as for the HCG i was going to do exactly what you suggested but as for running clomid and nolvadex at the same time after the cycle... is that going to somehow diminish my gains if I do too much PCT drugs?

 

[GTL_fo_Sho]

What are your goals here bro ? 5000 cals a day says you are bulking.

VAR is a great compound but not usually ran as part of a bulker.
IMO you would have been better off running beastdrol for the first 4 weeks and pinning your test twice a week not once.

stable blood levels = less sides.

Clen during a bulk cycle ? ...am not a big fan of the stuff - so i'll sayin nothing !

PCT - Read the stickie best PCT 2010 .its got all you need to know.

I was actually thinking of taking dianabol for the first four weeks with the cypionate but a buddy of mine said to just do test, anavar and clen because since this is my first cycle I shouldn't have it be too strong. I was thinking maybe after week 5 when the cypionate has kicked in and I have some solid gains in muscle mass ill decrease calories but keep my protien intake high. sorry for the confusion but do you think that I could get some solid gains by about week 5 or 6 and then start to cut up?

 

[GTL_fo_Sho]

I gotta agree with columbo on the var and clen, I was just responding to your dosing question. Some drol or d bol would go good for a first bulking cycle along with your test, I personally go every 4th/5th day on injections so be sure you have enough to run 10 wks. If all you have is the var then use it but if you have options, use them. If you get some drol or dbol run it the first 4 wks or find another variation, Other than that good luck!

Ive already started my test and i'm 2 days away from completing my second week. I can get anything i need but the problem about that is I have already started and the fastest I would be able to get stuff is 3 weeks from now. I heard running just test for a first cycle is good because you don't want to overdo it on your first one. Im not sure how true that is but I went with it but I have to make the best of what i have... Do you have any suggestions for me to make the best out of what i have

10 weeks test ( 8 weeks left)
2 weeks clen
6 weeks var
and all my PCTs that i need along with arimidex that im taking throughout the cycle

 

[TESTONITE]

Ok, i would continue with test, then I would now began using d-bol 30-40 mgs / day if you can get it. If you can you need to split that up into 3 dosages that total 40mgs, or 10 to 15 mgs three times daily. use your d-bol for the last 4 wks of your cycle then stop taking it 4 days after your last shot of test, do the nolva , and throughout cycle then after 7 days after your last test shot and 3 days after your last dbol dose begin clomid schedule I gave you, also use the hcg the way I said, this wild be a mild to moderate cycle, should have no worries and you wiil gain mass, especially once the d'bol kicks in. if you do this again do without the var and clen. If not then stick with what you have but sounds like you wanna gain size so I would cut out the var and clen and do test by itself if you don't run dbol or adandrol. you wanna use a good amount on your first cycle without over doing it and this will be. Remember your first cycle will always be the best results you ever get so make it good. any more questions just holler man. PS if you don't wanna cut out the var you can use it also but definately dont need the clen. all three test, var , and dbol would work together too.

 

[GTL_fo_Sho]

Ok, i would continue with test, then I would now began using d-bol 30-40 mgs / day if you can get it. If you can you need to split that up into 3 dosages that total 40mgs, or 10 to 15 mgs three times daily. use your d-bol for the last 4 wks of your cycle then stop taking it 4 days after your last shot of test, do the nolva , and throughout cycle then after 7 days after your last test shot and 3 days after your last dbol dose begin clomid schedule I gave you, also use the hcg the way I said, this wild be a mild to moderate cycle, should have no worries and you wiil gain mass, especially once the d'bol kicks in. if you do this again do without the var and clen. If not then stick with what you have but sounds like you wanna gain size so I would cut out the var and clen and do test by itself if you don't run dbol or adandrol. you wanna use a good amount on your first cycle without over doing it and this will be. Remember your first cycle will always be the best results you ever get so make it good. any more questions just holler man. PS if you don't wanna cut out the var you can use it also but definately dont need the clen. all three test, var , and dbol would work together too.

I was reading about taking d-bol and alot of people said you should take it the first four weeks of your cycle if your taking cypionate. There reasoning was because its a fast acting ester that you will gain mass for the first four weeks and then the cypionate would kick in. What would be the difference taking it in the last four weeks because i heard there was alot of water gains from it. And also what is beastdrol like compared to D-bol?

 

[TESTONITE]

that is true but either way, I know people that take it the first 4 and the last 4, there are a lot of water weight gains, as with most bulking steroids, I don't have much experience with beastdrol other than its supposed to be a great supplement made by orbit labratories, and d- bol is a hardcore anabolic steroid, you will lose a lot of the size with d-bol and test both in water weight. anadrol and d bol are mainly used at the beginning of a cycle but are frequently used at the middle and end of cycles to boost strength, just continue the test a little longer than the d-bol or anadrol then follow your PCT to maintain as much muscle as possible, like I said you're first cycle is your best. I wish I could go back to that one, my first cycle I did 12 wks of test ranging from 500 to 750 mg per week and made over 25 pound weight gain with at least 100 pd increase in bench, however I was uneducated about PCT back then(over ten yrs ago). try the beastdrol or try what you have man, if you cant or dont want to buy anymore right now thats still cool, use what you have, you will still see great results, again I would drop the clen and up to you about the var, use the var if you want just know they are primarily used for a cutting cycle. the test will give you great gains, if youre working out and eating right you should start noticing a difference by wk 2 or 3 in strength and some size. holler if you have anymore questions