First cyle

[grim_reapin]

I had a few questions about my first cyle. I am a light weight so I am wanting to put on lots and lots of lean muscle. I have been lifting for years and am very strict on my dieting but I want to do this all the way. I was thinking of going with a d-bol/test cyle for my first time but also was maybe thinking d-bol/deca. What do you guys think is best in terms of gaining mass. Also what do you guys suggest for amounts and length of time. I was aiming on taking the 30mg of the d-bol daily for 6 weeks or 12 weeks? What do you guys suggest on this? Also what is the better test to take with d-bol. I was also planning on taking the clomid but not sure if I should take during or after my cyle. Your input would be very appreciated. Sorry for all the questions but just want to do this right and not fuck it all to hell.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

I would not exceed 6 weeks with Dbol. I would suggest anywhere from 20mg - 30mg daily on the Dbol (start with 20 and work up). Also In my experience a good stack with dbol is sust 250.

Most will tell you sust250 @ 500mg a week min. I believe you can make quality gains with a little less bloat on sust250 just 250mg weekly.

My suggestion in summation:
sust250 wks 1-8
dbol 20-30mg wks 1-4

With hard training you should have good results and be able to maintain some of the gains. Again, I know many feel 500mg a week is min. for the sust, and you may prefer to go 500mg weekly instead of 250mg. To reiterate do not extend the dbol past 6 weeks - IMO.

 

[lostlazy]

Perhaps you may want to increase the test to 500 mg/wk since 250 mg is not very much more then what your body naturally produces. (b/w 75 in the weakest and up to 140 in the strongest, respectively)

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

Since the drug actually stays in the body 3-4 weeks, taking a shot every 7 days will gradually build up the amount of test in your body. See, I have seen many first timers get nice gains on sust 250 for 8-10 weeks and addidng a bit of dbol.

I realize most people will use 500+ per week, but I have seen several first timers grow on sust250 1x a week.

 

[guards]

Since the drug actually stays in the body 3-4 weeks, taking a shot every 7 days will gradually build up the amount of test in your body. See, I have seen many first timers get nice gains on sust 250 for 8-10 weeks and addidng a bit of dbol.

I realize most people will use 500+ per week, but I have seen several first timers grow on sust250 1x a week.

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I agree. 250 mg/week is sufficient and will allow you to see how you react to test. It will give you a good benchmark so that later on you can decide how much test you need to use to get the results you desire.


Nothing wrong with starting small.....karma to sh4dowf4lcon