First Cycle

[conrad]

hi folks, i have been a member of this forums for a wile now, i ususally just read the posts to get fimilar with gear doages etc and i now think i will be ready for my 1st cycle cum spring next year as i intend to drop a few pounds and sum body fat as well

At the minute i think my frame is quite big so i have never really been interested in bulking as i dnt wana be massive just well defined

This will be my cycle, im thinking 12-14weeks

Weeks 1 -14 Eq 500MG
Weeks 8 -14 Winny 375MG Per Week
Weeks 1 -14 HCG 500IUs per week
Clen 2weeks on 2 weeks off maybe 3 or 4 a day

PCT Novlex/Clomid


Anybody got any suggestions comments are very welcome

 

[chefbone]

Add some Test bro. 250-500mg a week will set you straight. If your cutting it's all about the diet.

 

[Anthony Starks]

hi folks, i have been a member of this forums for a wile now, i ususally just read the posts to get fimilar with gear doages etc and i now think i will be ready for my 1st cycle cum spring next year as i intend to drop a few pounds and sum body fat as well

At the minute i think my frame is quite big so i have never really been interested in bulking as i dnt wana be massive just well defined

This will be my cycle, im thinking 12-14weeks

Weeks 1 -14 Eq 500MG
Weeks 8 -14 Winny 375MG Per Week
Weeks 1 -14 HCG 500IUs per week
Clen 2weeks on 2 weeks off maybe 3 or 4 a day

PCT Novlex/Clomid


Anybody got any suggestions comments are very welcome

I think you are really overthinking the cycle and kind of messing it up. For your first cycle, something much more simple can be a lot more effective. Try this:

1-4: 20mg Dbol ED
1-10: 500mg Test E
8-12: 50mg Winny ED
1-12: .25mg Adex ED
13-15: 40mg Ndex ED

You can even drop the orals and just use the test if you want and if your diet is clean and your workouts are good, you are going to gain lean mass. No HCG is needed at these doses, especially not EW. Good luck.

 

[axe3]

most guys are going to tell you stick with 1 compound for yer first cycle. And of those must wil reccomend test. I would be one of those guys.

Anthony outlined a great set of options for you as well.

That being said if u have yer heart set on eq and winny I would stagger the winny more. PCT starts 17 days after last eq shot, so... run yer winny from wk 10.5 to wk 16.5 rather than wk 8-14.

axe3
formerly known as axe and axe2

 

[conrad]

i have been listening to all of your feed back, but sum people are saying add Test at 250 - 500MG Per week, sum people say just go with Test and that i dnt HCG evryweek.

I have been reserching for a good 12months on types of gear and i want my 1st cycle to be perfect with minimal sides and maximum gains

therefore would anybody object of a cycle of

Weeks 1 -14 Eq 500MG
Weeks 1 -14 Test E 250MG
Weeks 8 -14 Winny 375MG Per Week
Weeks 1 -14 HCG 500IUs per week
Clen 2weeks on 2 weeks off maybe 3 or 4 a day

PCT Novlex/Clomid

 

[wayneboard1]

i have been listening to all of your feed back, but sum people are saying add Test at 250 - 500MG Per week, sum people say just go with Test and that i dnt HCG evryweek.

I have been reserching for a good 12months on types of gear and i want my 1st cycle to be perfect with minimal sides and maximum gains

therefore would anybody object of a cycle of

Weeks 1 -14 Eq 500MG
Weeks 1 -14 Test E 250MG
Weeks 8 -14 Winny 375MG Per Week
Weeks 1 -14 HCG 500IUs per week
Clen 2weeks on 2 weeks off maybe 3 or 4 a day

PCT Novlex/Clomid

I would drop the winny and the clomid, but thats my opinion. I have never used clomid but I hear it has some undesireable sides I don't care to encounter. My first cycle was test e at 250 and eq at 400 a week for 15 weeks. VERY happy with that. HCG midcycle and the last 2 weeks, liquidex .5 EOD the entire time and liquinolva (liquid nolvadex) for PCT. Too many compounds your first go round can cause some problems. WIth just test or test and EQ you will get some GREAT results if you work hard and keep the diet in check. Good luck bro!

 

[Anthony Starks]

i have been listening to all of your feed back, but sum people are saying add Test at 250 - 500MG Per week, sum people say just go with Test and that i dnt HCG evryweek.

I have been reserching for a good 12months on types of gear and i want my 1st cycle to be perfect with minimal sides and maximum gains

therefore would anybody object of a cycle of

Weeks 1 -14 Eq 500MG
Weeks 1 -14 Test E 250MG
Weeks 8 -14 Winny 375MG Per Week
Weeks 1 -14 HCG 500IUs per week
Clen 2weeks on 2 weeks off maybe 3 or 4 a day

PCT Novlex/Clomid

You need to research more about HCG, more about anti-e's, and more about esters if you want to put together your own cycles and ignore other's people's. And drop the clen, if you are fat your diet should be your number 1 priority for losing weight. This makes much more sense if you want to use those 3 compounds:

Weeks 1 -12 Eq 500MG
Weeks 1 -13 Test E 250MG
Weeks 12 -14 Winny 375MG Per Week
Weeks 1 -14 Adex .25mg ed
Weeks 14 -17 Nolva 40mg ED

Take it or leave it, its not my body.

 

[JohnnyWest]

Some good advice by other people but I definetly wouldn't use the HCG for any more than 2 weeks at a time.