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First Cycle

digit0x

digit0x

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Here it is.

Sust. 250 @ 250ml a week/8 weeks.

PCT = 1,000 IUs HCG 2x/wk with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED, first 3 weeks. Discontinue HCG, sustain Nolva. 20 mgs every other day, for additional 3 weeks.

And of course a strict diet and workout regimine.

I understand a greater dosage with additional compounds will have a greater effect, but again this is my first cycle and I want to get a feel for this before I go nuts. Is 250 ml of sust just not enough? Is my PCT ok or should I change it?
 
digit0x said:
Here it is.

Sust. 250 @ 250ml a week/8 weeks.

PCT = 1,000 IUs HCG 2x/wk with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED, first 3 weeks. Discontinue HCG, sustain Nolva. 20 mgs every other day, for additional 3 weeks.

And of course a strict diet and workout regimine.

I understand a greater dosage with additional compounds will have a greater effect, but again this is my first cycle and I want to get a feel for this before I go nuts. Is 250 ml of sust just not enough? Is my PCT ok or should I change it?
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You should go with 500mg of test instead. Do Enathate or Cypionate instead.

Split the HCG into 500 M/W/F

Good luck.
 
digit0x said:
why test over sust?



thanks for input. K
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Sustanon is a blend of tests, and in my opinion, useless, especially for a first cycle.
 
Some people like Sus, some don't. I have done 250 alone and made some gains in 8 weeks. What you use is up to you, but these days my minimum would be to use 500 of Sus if that was what I was using, or better, a 200 of test and 250 of deca type stack. Or just test alone. Side effects won't be much worse than with the 200, and gains will be greater and stay on better afterwards IMO. But I can understand your hesitation. After all, my first cycle was 250/week for 10 weeks.
 
i have made good gains off 250mg a week. its your first cycle, i personally feel that will be good for a first cycle, expect to keep most gains, that is a good pct for that cycle. good luck
 
That's the exact first cycle I'm finishing up. I've gained 26 pounds and still have another week to go. Why would a blend of tests be useless? You'd get the effects of all the different acting esters. Worked just fine for me. I am eating almost 5000 calories a day though. Anyway, that's a good first cycle. Don't want to screw up your tolerance level from the start, when you only need small doses at first to get big gains. Just like tolerance with any other drug. Good to start small cause that's all you need.
 
250wk should be fine for first cycle,you"ll just have to give it time to see if you need more. if u don"t think 250mg/wk is enough i would go with 500mg/every10 days. that"s what my first cycle was i gained 25lbs in 13wks.your body you will c how it reacts . smart man wanting to start low!!!!!!!!!
 
Like azul said you should bump your dose up to 500mg, sust are great but I prefer straight enanthate.
 
go with enthanate, it works much better than sust, i don't like sust, as stated above though its personal opinion, but if you ask around enth or cyp are preferred by the big boys
 
fergie said:
he says k to all but gives me bad karma.... what gives? Did the monkey piss you off?

BOMBS AWAY
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are you sure ferg? I appologize if I did it was unintentional >< I will give you some +
 
250 mg a week of sust is fine. Thats is what I am taking now. On my 3rd cycle. Start small, you might react bad to test, or sust. You might react great and 250 will give you great results. I am very statisfied with what gains I have made. Just eat good and train hard. Lots of rest.
 
digit0x said:
Great feedback and invaluable advice. Thanks.
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My first cycle (which was only about three years ago) was 250 of sust for 12 weeks. I also threw in some oral winny 25 ed from weeks 6 to 12. I got greedy and made some tren knowing it was going to be my best cycle. Tren was the best, even though some say it should only be used if you are experienced.

I started out just as you only wanting to take sust for my cycle. Halfway into it, i was loving the results and that is when I chose to throw in some winny and tren. From personal experience, even though I have only done four cycles, I saw more results from that one than any other cycle.

Good luck. I don't think it will be necessary for the anti-e's on this low dose until post cycle. It may just hinder some gains. I would save the hcg for after, and you may not even need that. I didnt. I just used clomid post cycle and I was fine. :)
 
I like the fact that a lot of bros have had very good sucess with low dosages of test...I was thinking of 250-400mg/wk of test C or E for my 2nd cycle, and was a bit worried about it only producing small gains, but look at the results of krishna and gettinlarge! 25-26 lbs a cycle is tremendous. Just goes to show, low dose + hard work can equal big gains.

K to the both of you.


Bluesman
 
I went from 200 to 220 on 250mgs of test. I never go over 500mgs a week and I'm 240. It seems to me if you start small you get more out of things. I know guys the do 750mgs or a gram a week and dont grow like I do. I would always start small. You can increase the dosage later. See how your body reacts!
 
AWOL1 said:
My first cycle (which was only about three years ago) was 250 of sust for 12 weeks. I also threw in some oral winny 25 ed from weeks 6 to 12. I got greedy and made some tren knowing it was going to be my best cycle. Tren was the best, even though some say it should only be used if you are experienced.

I started out just as you only wanting to take sust for my cycle. Halfway into it, i was loving the results and that is when I chose to throw in some winny and tren. From personal experience, even though I have only done four cycles, I saw more results from that one than any other cycle.

Good luck. I don't think it will be necessary for the anti-e's on this low dose until post cycle. It may just hinder some gains. I would save the hcg for after, and you may not even need that. I didnt. I just used clomid post cycle and I was fine. :)
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Does anyone else think the HCG is unnecessary?


-To anyone that got bad k srry, I'm contacting mod to fix that. :p
 
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