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First Cycle

Summer = 4 months away. There is no time to do more than one cycle and pct, then have proper time off within that time frame.

DO a good bulker with proper diet, training, rest, and PCT and you can get 20lbs that will stick to ya, but 45, sorry, not going to happen.

Sounds like another Spring Break Thread.
 
nope not a spring break thread. i am not looking for any real gains for spring break. Iy's not like i get to go anywhere to impress anybody i gotta work the whole damn week. So Raffaz how much do you think i can put on with 500mg test, 400mg deca and 30mg of dbol???? then what should i do after the first 4 weeks.
 
1991rs said:
nope not a spring break thread. i am not looking for any real gains for spring break. Iy's not like i get to go anywhere to impress anybody i gotta work the whole damn week. So Raffaz how much do you think i can put on with 500mg test, 400mg deca and 30mg of dbol???? then what should i do after the first 4 weeks.

You will put on no more than 25lbs i reckon, after that you need to run ya PCT. Like the other bros have said, you wont get 2 cycles done in 4 months. You just havent enough time mate. I think that 45lbs in 4 months is unrealistic, unless you wanna be a walking tub of lard.

Mick
 
Raffaz said:
You will put on no more than 25lbs i reckon, after that you need to run ya PCT. Like the other bros have said, you wont get 2 cycles done in 4 months. You just havent enough time mate. I think that 45lbs in 4 months is unrealistic, unless you wanna be a walking tub of lard.

Mick

So go 4 weeks AAS then run PCT. What about doing like an 8 week cycle of AAS then after cycle?
 
no what he meant was run the dbol for the first four weeks to kick off your cycle. That way you'll make some good gains right off the bat while waiting for the long lasting esters of deca and test to kick in. do it like this

1-4 dbol 40mg/day
1-11 deca 400mg/wk
1-12 test e or cyp 500mg/wk

Start PCT two weeks after last shot of test e
 
So what would be the best test to take. Cyp, Enanthate, Susp, Prop, I am also looking for something with low DHT Conversion or a DHT blocker. Need to keep the hair!!!!!!!! LOL
 
All test, regardless of the ester, will convert to DHT. You could take a DHT blocker like finasteride (propecia) with it, however there is some debate that DHT blocker may inhibit gains b/c DHT is very anabolic. Although I doubt you'll go bald after one cycle
 
I didn't even really know i was using a steroid when i used the deca. All i knew was that it turned me into a phsyco on the field i just need a detailed cycle to put on size not become another phsyco

You've used steroids before without knowing what you put into your body.
Barry Bonds.....is that you. But seriously bro, you don't respect your body much
if you are willing to start injecting shit into it without knowing what in the hell it is.

So Raffaz how much do you think i can put on with 500mg test, 400mg deca and 30mg of dbol???? then what should i do after the first 4 weeks.

This is a HORRIBLE 1st cycle!!!!! When are you guys gonna learn, 1st cycle should be test only. At the very least, the first cycle should only be one compound.
 
Apexx said:
This is a HORRIBLE 1st cycle!!!!! When are you guys gonna learn, 1st cycle should be test only. At the very least, the first cycle should only be one compound.

As far as im concerned it isnt his first cycle, he has already stated that he has used deca, so whats wrong with adding test to that this time round.....nothing

Mick
 
Raffaz said:
As far as im concerned it isnt his first cycle, he has already stated that he has used deca, so whats wrong with adding test to that this time round.....nothing

Mick


I hear what you're saying, but do you honestly think he has a clue how he is going to react to deca. Yeah he's taken it before, but he didn't even know he was "on". I think he needs to look at this as his first cycle. He doesn't have enough knowledge to start combining shit, so I say he should start from square one.
 
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