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jobe1

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i have studied endocrinology, hrt, and i have been a part of 6 forums for the past 3 years, so i feel now i am educated enough to make the decision to go forward. For the past 5 years i have switched between powerlifting, football training/lifting and maintinance lifting. I am 24y.o., 6 ft., 230lbs, 15% (genetics really hinder my fat loss, no medical issues, i just have typical 'ranch hand or farm boy genetics' and athsma). I would like to shred down to about 8% or so, i need to not be embarassed to take my shirt off! SO.. i want to plan a cutting cycle that won't kill my muscle. I have no problem sticking to a very strict diet. here's what i would like to run;

12 week cycle

clen (2w on/off, 3or4 tabs/ YNCA during 'off' time)
T3 (6 or 7 wk pyramid to 100 mcg w/ fast ramp up, very slow ramp dn acetyl-l-carnetine 10g ed for thyroid recovery after)
pgf2a (aggresively)
IGF-r3 and GH (1 u.i. each am and pm)
Tren (75mb eod.. maybe 100mg eod wks 1-8 or 10)
TestGel (25mg 3x ed am, noon, pm)

i will try to get aromasin if i can but if not, it will be liqudex maybe at .25 eod (adjusted for bloat) Nolva/Proviron/HCG 3 days after last shot. Milk Thistle, R-ala.. any other supps?

Heres some questions i have.
1) should i ad EQ? or Bold. acet?
2) should i kick and end with a dbol/masteron combo?
3) how should i tike spiking my insulin (chromium) and R-ala?
4) I know Kynoselen or any ADP/ATP will open up the calcium and potasium chanels but im not sure if i should use them because i would like to shred fat a little faster and basically that's the exact oposite of using DNP.
5)DIET!! this is where i have a hard time guessing.. i was thinking around 1500 to 2250 cals/ed 60% protein 30% carb 10%fat ?

I don't mind a tedious schedule, i prefer the most stable blood levels possible while using short esters (i know i'll be a pin cushion)... all input is apreciated..
 
why not go with somthing simple and fairly safe till you see how your body reacts to gear? i know tren will shut you down hard (at least ive read it) i wont do it because of it...
im on my second cycle now. i had excelent results doing a var only cycle with creatine for my first cycle! now im doing test prop 100 mg eod and 40 mg's of var ed.....this cycle is the shit....even better then my first. i played it safe with the var only cycle as a first and experienced no sides....just great strength, vascularity, hardness, and put on 20+ lbs of muscle while cutting my bf in half...
just a sugestion for you....btw btg var is unreal! its just very expensive, but the papervar is good stuff too!
 
im definatly open to trying var, i've heard great replies about it.. i forgot to include my work out schedule,
8 am run/walk my dog around town for about 40 to 50 minutes
12 noon or 1pm, Local gym (love Golds gym) there for about 90 minutes of no bullshit or talking.. just lifting i do 4 exercises of 4x10 reps on the major muscle im training that day
7pm or 8pm back to the gym for 45 to 60 minutes for 2 minor muscle groups or swimming or treadmill..

i am extreemly dedicated.. some call it overtraining.. ok fine.. i am obsessed with getting to where i want to be.. is that necessarily bad?? i think not! especially since my work sched is 100% flexible...

how would you work the var in to this sched?

as for the others that haven't replied.. please tell me about your experiance and how you wish you would have done anything differently.. thanks again bros.
 
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