first cycle - winny and clen

[hypertrophy]

Just started a very mild first cycle (1 week in). I've been training for quite some time and have pretty decent muscle mass at 6'2" 235 pounds and 9% bodyfat.

Here is my cycle, please advise.

Winstrol oral 10 2mcg tabs per day divided into two doses
Clen oral 6 tabs daily divided into three doses and taken with an ECA stack.

I've been on pretty low carbs for quite a while and have just started upping them a bit (still under 150 grams a day though). I eat around 240 grams of protein a day.

Any suggestions? Should I increase my dosage of Win now that I have finished a week?

Thanks for the help.

 

[bigpumpdaddy1]

Winstrol 2mcg tabs? Don't you mean 2mg? Clen comes in mcg tabs.

BPD

 

[hypertrophy]

my mistake, 2 mg tablets. I was thinking of the clen

 

[Digital Ronin]

So, you're taking 20mg of Winny and 120mcg of Clen/day?

I'd personally up the Winny to 50mg/day... Not sure what kind of results you'd see with only 20mg, if any...

Btw, how are you cycling the clen?

 

[hypertrophy]

Btw, how are you cycling the clen?

I am going to do two weeks on and take a week off of the clen to cycle it. I had read that you could just take weekends off and take the clen the other 5 days, but I'm not too sure about that.

I will up the winny to 50mg a day.

Thanks

 

[bigmag]

taking the winny at 50mg/day is good. If you're taking the clen. don't take the eca with it. you should use the eca when you're off the clen. as far as cycling the clen. time on=time off. so if you're on for two weeks, take two weeks off. Take the eca for the two weeks you're off. I have a friend who suggested that I take the clen at two tabs eod, and take the eca on my days off, but I'm doing it on a two week on, two week off fasion. Just my .02

 

[bigpumpdaddy1]

I agree with Digital Ronin, that you should increase the winny to at least 50mg per day.

BPD

 

[bigpumpdaddy1]

As far as clen you should alternate between clen and eca stack. Weeks 1 and 2 clen,weeks 3 and 4 ECA, weeks 5 and 6 clen, weeks 7 and 8 ECA.

BPD

 

[Yellowbomber]

would take Winnys 3-4 times a day more steady AS levels

 

[hypertrophy]

I was not real thrilled with the idea of takin the ECA and clen together, although I followed the advice of another and did it for about a week. I will now split the ECA and clen so that they are on alternate two week cycles.

I am upping the winny to 50 mgs, so how long a cycle should I follow? What type of gains should I expect?

Thanks for all the help.

 

[hypertrophy]

next question - what should I follow up with. I have not yet convinced myself to do injectibles, so suggestions on orals would be well received.

 

[Digital Ronin]

Run the winny for 10 wks and then take the next couple months off. (i.e. Time on = Time off) Start thinking about what you want to do with your next cycle. Bulking or cutting and then you can start planning your cycle from there.

Also, go with the advice on the clen for 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off...

 

[hypertrophy]

I had to order some more winstrol to go 10 weeks at this dosage but that is done.

Basically I want to stay pretty well cut-up. I used to be very large (read "fat") at 360+ pounds. My problem now is excess skin after dropping just under 20 inches off my waist. My motivation now is to maintain pretty decent definition along with a little bit more size.

My diet is good and I think my training regime is pretty good - been religious for 5 1/2 years now in my program. Just wanted a bit of an "enhancement" that I wasn't getting by grace of God and otc supplements alone.

Once this ten weeks is up I will reassess.

Thanks again for the help.