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First Cycle Test E Dosage?

Watson said:
I'm totally up for new ideas. I've tried posting a couple about GH, and some recent articles, but I get absolutely nothing back. Honestly, if I could go back and do my first cycle over, I would do 4 to 6 months of GH with a minimal amount of test, maybe 250 mg. per week. You could easily gain 30 or more pounds and keep every bit, which is the reason we all do steroids in the first place. Correct? The juice is a never ending cycle. Your gonna eventually lose what you gain if you stop training, give or take 5 or 10 pounds. Why not create new muscle cells the first go around, and keep the all the weight? That's my opinion.
Basically , that's what i'm doing. my 1st cycle. over a month now on gh, thrown in some igf and now just started 500mg wk test-e 2 days ago, for 10 wks. will do the gh for a year. really interested in how much lbm i can create and how much i can keep.
 
500mg for 10-12 weeks. 1g i think is too high, especially for his first cycle. see how you react this go around and then you can either up the dose for your second or add another compound, like dbol, winny or eq.
 
Watson said:
I'd say on average, when people do thier first cycle the gains are somewhere between 20 to 30 pounds, depending on your training intensity, and your diet. That's on the normal recommended dose of 400 to 500 mg/wk for someone doing a first cycle. So what would he expect to gain on 1 gram? Cause it doesn't get much better than 25 or 30 pounds. Then where do you go from there? Up in the dosage for your 2nd cycle? A gram is a bit ridiculous.

The only time someone gains that much weight the first time is because they hadn't reached their genetic potential and jumped on gear.

To answer your question about how much to use will depend on where you are at right now in terms of genetic potential, age, diet, how long you've been training for and your goals. You are the one that has to chose how much to run. Everyone here and anywhere else is just going to give you the same answers pretty much. The average first cycle of Test is anywhere between 200mg to1000mg per week.
 
perfect test-e only cycle is 1.5 ml (if of course your test-e is rated @ 250mg/ml) monday morning and thursday night.. the first three weeks will be questionable.. you won't really have a whole lot of changes going on, but by the end of week 4 you'll be very happy. grab yourself a stack of d-bol the get yourself jumpsstarted. 60mgs a day split up and taken every 4 hours
 
Mrpumped said:
The only time someone gains that much weight the first time is because they hadn't reached their genetic potential and jumped on gear.

To answer your question about how much to use will depend on where you are at right now in terms of genetic potential, age, diet, how long you've been training for and your goals. You are the one that has to chose how much to run. Everyone here and anywhere else is just going to give you the same answers pretty much. The average first cycle of Test is anywhere between 200mg to1000mg per week.

Yeah, and I would love to see some numbers when it comes to the percentage of people who actually reach thier FULL genetic potential before jumping on gear. I would guess somewhere under 5%. I wouldn't be surprised if that number is DEAD on. If not, then it's lower.

Why can't this question just get answered? Every damn person that has posted knows that 500 mg. per week is a reasonable dose and the most recommended for a first cycle. It has always amazed me how everyone feels the need to know MORE than everyone else, or know something that everyone else doesn't. It's a simple question. Why not just give him a good straight-forward answer, and we can all be on our way. 200 mg. to 1000 mg. is not a good answer. Sorry, but I've never found dosages to be anything close to rocket science. So why make them seem that way?
 
most people find low dose cycles, ie 200mg dissapointing. Though there are certainly those that respond to those dosages.

500-750mg of T alone is reasonable for a first cycle and will generally produce the desired result.

the NEJM study used 600mg/week
 
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