FIRST CYCLE - Test E + Dbol OR Anadrol?

[eddie777]

Hey this will be my first cycle, Im looking for quality bulk but since summer is near i was hoping for some hardness / vascularity. I was wondering which oral out of the two should be taken. If dbol it would be at 30m ED / And for Drol it would be 50mg im guessing if i were to take it. Also would nolva + Adex be enough for pct or would i need to throw in clomid?
Thanks alot.

 

[igomad]

worst choice possible if you're aiming for hardness lol. Go with prop + tbol instead for quality over quantity (both dbol and anadrol will give you horrible bloat which will make you look bigger and you'll have a feeling that you've put on tons of weight but it goes right away when you go off because well it's mainly water)

 

[DbeezyPro]

Sub the dbol for winstrol 50 mg ED week 1-6

 

[gymjunkie09]

worst choice possible if you're aiming for hardness lol. Go with prop + tbol instead for quality over quantity (both dbol and anadrol will give you horrible bloat which will make you look bigger and you'll have a feeling that you've put on tons of weight but it goes right away when you go off because well it's mainly water)

Yep this or var, add proviron at 50mg/ed for the last 4 weeks to cap it off

 

[All In a Year]

Use dbol... Anadrol sucks. Dbol makes you feel great and you gain a lot of weight.. But you will bloat. Make sure you run an AI or formastanzol and it will take care of bloat. Your pct sucks dude. Do some research on a better pct. Nolvadex is horrible... Terrible sides, very toxic. Use clomid for a serm in your pct along with unleashed, forged post cycle, hcgenerate, formastanzol

 

[eddie777]

Sub the dbol for winstrol 50 mg ED week 1-6

Problem is im fairly light, I wanna bulk to a bigger size. How much weight will Win + Test put on do you think?
EDIT: Or comparing Win with Var. Which would you choose to get quality mass gains however keeping vascularity and hardness? all ive looked into was a50 and dbol. Thanks

 

[gymjunkie09]

Problem is im fairly light, I wanna bulk to a bigger size. How much weight will Win + Test put on do you think?
EDIT: Or comparing Win with Var. Which would you choose to get quality mass gains however keeping vascularity and hardness? all ive looked into was a50 and dbol. Thanks

What are your stats?

 

[MattJS]

Whats your age, weight height, how many years training?

 

[Tripp_Adems]

I'm sorry but no one should really be giving you any advice without your stats and considering this is your first cycle I wouldn't recommend any of the above!

I have made a thread for first cycles, the link is below, read this thoroughly and then make an informed decision on what to do.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/newbies-steriod-cycling-must-read-861433.html

 

[the_alcatraz]

Guys, I thought I made myself clear that no one gives advice to anyone without stating age and stats first...please...I'm asking nicely. I'll start giving infractions soon. I'd rather not close the thread either, but work with me here.