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First Cycle - Test E + (Dbol or anadrol) + Winny ?

eddie777

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Hey this will be my first cycle, trained for 8 years. Was in bad shape before (180 lbs mostly fat) now that ive been training ive become 150 lbs and between 9-11% BF, 5'10 wanting to start my first cycle.

Since summer is approaching i would like to have a hardened / vascular body for July / summer.

I was thinking of this cycle to hopefully bulk up to 170+ however not being bloated. Please critique, Thanks alot

Week 1-10 500MG Test E E/W
Week 1-4 E/D 30MG Dbol OR 50Mg Anadrol
Week 7-9 Winstrol? not sure of dosage or if to take it.

I was thinking the winstrol near the end would harden up the gains / get my body ready for summer.

Also, would anadrol or dbol better?
and would 2 Weeks of winstrol be enough time to make a dent? What would expected gains be on this cycle?

Arimidex would be run possibly during cycle / PCT along with nolva / clomid.
Thanks!
 
Just run test only for 10 to 12 weeks you will gain well if diet and training is good enjoi...

I was gonna do that however i only plan on doing 1 - 2 cycles in my life max.

If i just ran dbol as a kickstart would the bloat go down and the test harden my gains by week 10/12?
Also would anadrol be better over dbol or is A50 not good for a first cycle?
 
I was gonna do that however i only plan on doing 1 - 2 cycles in my life max.

If i just ran dbol as a kickstart would the bloat go down and the test harden my gains by week 10/12?
Also would anadrol be better over dbol or is A50 not good for a first cycle?

Just do test only man seriously other wise you won't know what the sides might be coming from if there is any ...
Then second cycle add some other compounds in...
 
Just do test only man seriously other wise you won't know what the sides might be coming from if there is any ...
Then second cycle add some other compounds in...

But Id have AIs and nolva on hand :S Sorry i just dont see the big deal in adding dbol atleast
 
But Id have AIs and nolva on hand :S Sorry i just dont see the big deal in adding dbol atleast

Well upto you but more sides will be present and you won't know if it's test or dbol your choice any way don't ask if you already know your gonna run them enjoy!!!
 
Well upto you but more sides will be present and you won't know if it's test or dbol your choice any way don't ask if you already know your gonna run them enjoy!!!

Well I was asking if by the time the dbol is done and im on week 5-10 will the water be gone and the test harden up my dbol gains and give hardness or could i run something like winny for 2 weeks to harden it ?
 
But if i wanna be hardened and vascular for the summer can i add winstrol for 2-4 weeks (weeks 7-9 for 2 weeks or 8-12 for 4) to harden up?

I wouldn't myself but loads of people do man you'll be fine what dosages you planning running then ??
 
I would run your Test /Dbol cycle at a low dose and keep on going. Best of luck to you and remember to diet and train hard..
 
I would run your Test /Dbol cycle at a low dose and keep on going. Best of luck to you and remember to diet and train hard..

Thanks Arabian, now if i start a 10 Week cycle of 500Mg Test E + 30MG Dbol ED / 4 weeks, can i add 2 weeks (weeks 7-9) of winstrol? If so what dose? Would that harden my gains up nicely for the summer?


I wouldn't myself but loads of people do man you'll be fine what dosages you planning running then ??

Thanks, and im not totally sure on a winstrol dose yet. What would you reccommend?
 
Hey homie, i know ur itching to get on sauce but i honestly think 150lbs is a little under weight to be starting it. Believe me i know u get the itch to want to start cuz u never done it before but i personally would wait until u gained another 15-20lbs naturally... However, if ur dead set on starting, i wouldnt run dbol with test for first cycle. I would keep it simple and just run test E at 500mgs per week for ten weeks... I did sus 250 at 500mgs for my first cycle
 
Hey homie, i know ur itching to get on sauce but i honestly think 150lbs is a little under weight to be starting it. Believe me i know u get the itch to want to start cuz u never done it before but i personally would wait until u gained another 15-20lbs naturally... However, if ur dead set on starting, i wouldnt run dbol with test for first cycle. I would keep it simple and just run test E at 500mgs per week for ten weeks... I did sus 250 at 500mgs for my first cycle

I agree with this. I'm 5'11" and I weigh 47 pounds more than you do. I've never done AAS or any pro hormone. If you've been training for 8 years your doing something wrong. Either your diet is off or your training incorrectly. Its going to be a total waste if you start now because your going to lose anything you gain based on what I see.

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