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First cycle...Test E 600mg for 12 weeks. Help a newbie

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CynicDream

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Whats up fellas. New to the. Lard but been reading for awhile now. I've been lifting for many years and have never pinned up until now. My only experiences ever with AAS was with the original Superdrol. I was young and had no idea what it really was. Got some good gains nd fortunately didn't mess up my system or get Gyno. I was 21 at the time....BIG MISTAKE. Needless to say I stayed away from anything with the word "anabolic" in front of it lol.

I'm 28 years old 5'11" 190 pounds at 12% bf. I recently cut down from 197 pounds and 16% bf. I've done plenty of research and have waited this long to finally pin the right way.

I'm gonna be running the following

Weeks 1-4 - Mdrol 20/20/30/30
Weeks 1-12 Test E 600mg EW
Weeks 9-13 Anavar 60mg ED (5week bridge into PCT)
Weeks 14-18 Clomid + Nolva

I have Liquidex as a just in case and won't run unless I feel bloated or some sides are kicking in. Will also use during PCT in small dosages and do not plan to kill me Estro. Maybe .25 EOD during PCT.

I got a good deal on some Deca but will not rush my first cycle. Not a race....I'm gonna hold it until maybe my 3rd cycle and when I have all the proper ancillaries in place (Letro). But I do have it and will be tempted dammit

I have all the liver support supps along with saw palmetto and Hawthorne berry. Mdrol is going to kick my liver's ass.

How does my cycle look?

How about my PCT?

Should I be running HCG? And if so where the heck do I get some?


I'll post pics of my physique in a bit. Very excited. Been ripped for years but now want to look like a monster.
 
Nice to see someone who has done their research. Because it is your first pinning cycle I would recommend 500 mg of test per week. Your receptors are still pretty much virgin to this, so it should be plenty to make great gains. Let's see, I would add;

N2Guard 1-4
HCGenerate 5-10
Anavar 9-14
N2Guard 9-14
HCG 11-14 1250 iu a week, split in 2

PCT 15-18
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/Post Cycle
DAA powder or chews

Let's see what the other guys think.
 
Why is it to late? I just would be concerned running two orals in the same cycle giving Mdrol toxicity. Even tho they are spaced out
 
Idobehigh said:
Why is it to late? I just would be concerned running two orals in the same cycle giving Mdrol toxicity. Even tho they are spaced out
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Too late bcuz I've already dropped $65 on the product. I ran liver supps 2 weeks beofre. Loaded up on it. I'm sure D-bol isn't good for the liver either. I'll have proper blood checks done soon tho. And I read Anavar is no more damaging to the liver than an ice cold Corona. I chose the Anavar bcuz of all the stuff I've read regarding ow little damage it does to the body. Am I wrong?
 
buddhabuilder said:
Nice to see someone who has done their research. Because it is your first pinning cycle I would recommend 500 mg of test per week. Your receptors are still pretty much virgin to this, so it should be plenty to make great gains. Let's see, I would add;

N2Guard 1-4
HCGenerate 5-10
Anavar 9-14
N2Guard 9-14
HCG 11-14 1250 iu a week, split in 2

PCT 15-18
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/Post Cycle
DAA powder or chews

Let's see what the other guys think.
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Where can I get my hands on the products you listed above.....speciafically HCGenerate
 
HCGenerate and N2Guard at needtobuildmuscle.com, DAA from mrsupps.com (Forma Stanzol as well, which is nice during cruise and PCT). Unleashed/Post Cycle from proteinfactory.com. Oh, and I forgot, you should be using an AI during cycle. I like Aromasin at 12.5 mg eod.

Check my thread under the AAS forum; Buddhas cycle Blog. I did a similar thing. You might have to scroll down a bit, but if you post in the thread you will be subscribed to it.
 
buddhabuilder said:
HCGenerate and N2Guard at needtobuildmuscle.com, DAA from mrsupps.com (Forma Stanzol as well, which is nice during cruise and PCT). Unleashed/Post Cycle from proteinfactory.com. Oh, and I forgot, you should be using an AI during cycle. I like Aromasin at 12.5 mg eod.

Check my thread under the AAS forum; Buddhas cycle Blog. I did a similar thing. You might have to scroll down a bit, but if you post in the thread you will be subscribed to it.
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Hey thanks brother. Appreciate all the advice. I already have Liquidex on hand. Think I should run it even tho no side effects yet?

And If I do run, I'm thinking maybe .5mg twice a week (right after I pin Monday and Thursday). What do you think? That would be 1mg a week for duration of cycle.
 
I've used cycle assist in the past and I can tell you n2guard is much better.. also mdrol is superdrol so I wouldnt run that as a 1st cycle.. just run straight test at half the dose you were originally gonna run.. superdrol and test is further down the line I think

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bonacris said:
I've used cycle assist in the past and I can tell you n2guard is much better.. also mdrol is superdrol so I wouldnt run that as a 1st cycle.. just run straight test at half the dose you were originally gonna run.. superdrol and test is further down the line I think

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Thanks brother.


I've run SD before......ignorantly but I still ran it.

Got ZERO side effects and mega gains. Didn't touch anything anabolic after that. Truth be told, I bought it from a nutrition shop before it was banned and the salesman told me it was like Nitric Oxide but better. So my dumb ass bought it and gained 12 pounds of muscle at age 21.

Luckily i didn't ruin my ballsack and blood work.



Also, the consensus I get around here is that 500-600mg of Test is great for a first cycle. Correct me if I'm wrong
 
CynicDream said:
Thanks brother.


I've run SD before......ignorantly but I still ran it.

Got ZERO side effects and mega gains. Didn't touch anything anabolic after that. Truth be told, I bought it from a nutrition shop before it was banned and the salesman told me it was like Nitric Oxide but better. So my dumb ass bought it and gained 12 pounds of muscle at age 21.

Luckily i didn't ruin my ballsack and blood work.



Also, the consensus I get around here is that 500-600mg of Test is great for a first cycle. Correct me if I'm wrong
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If you have run it before then my apologies didn't mean to be condescending.. I'm currently running SD now and I'm loving it

I have run 3 cycles where my test was 500mg and I think I could have made the same gains with less sides at a lower dose.. just my opinion man

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400/wk should be more than enough. At a certain point highrr doses just leads to a higher chance of side effects.

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Sounds like you getting a clear idea of how to move forward. Like I said, check my thread, it may help you put the finishing touches on your cycle. Feel free to pm me with anything else.
 
bonacris said:
You should already be jacked and gear will push you over the top

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Nicely put bonacris. I had someone ask me, "How is it that your popping veins and showing striations when you have only been on Anavar for a week?" I told him, because I have been dieting for it for months.
 
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