First Cycle Situation

[safety4lyfe]

Hey boys, heres my problem. I finally found a reliable source since i moved, but it took some time. It will be my first injectable cycle so obviously test would be the number one choice. But the problem is I wouldn't be able to use test E due to the long ester and fear of drug testing. So I figure Test P would be the next best thing...however, it would take much more frequent injects. And for a first time user, this kinda makes me want to fill my trousers. Another option would be a nice h-GH only cycle. I've done my fair share of research and it seems like a reasonable choice for the goals i want to achieve.

Im just wondering whats everybody's position on a h=GH only cycle. I would do 2x at EOD somewhere around 2.5IU for 3 or 4 months, depending on the cash flow (maybe even longer) What would a P.CT look like for a cycle like this.

But again, I am still open for a test P cycle..probably dosed 75mg EOD. Appreciate any sort of feedback boys.

Stats: Looking for keepable gains, put on lean muscle and still be able to run fast, since i am a baller

200lbs, 6'05ft, 12.5% BF

 

[safety4lyfe]

Ooops! Forgot...I'm 20 years of age.

 

[eddymerckx]

now, you have been here long enough to know the answer you are going to get bro...for anabolic androgenic steroids - 4-5 years, for gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - ---maybe 20 years....

sorry bro, you need to eat and train like a madman--and you will grow as much as us old guys on gear....

and needto is going to replace your avatar with his own cooking show after his cookbook sells like mad

 

[SaladFork]

Read this thread bro - http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/question-580935.html

 

[safety4lyfe]

haha thanks for the input. Yah im pumped for his cook book, im sure there will be lots of goodies. Yah it would be a nice change to have needto as an avatar.

Just curious as to why wait for 4-5 years...because i already have high test levels?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Ooops! Forgot...I'm 20 years of age.

Yeah the bros are right , get in the kitchen and gym for gains .

Mmmmm Racheal

Brad.

 

[safety4lyfe]

Read this thread bro - http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ion-580935.html

Thanks for the good read...feel like a real suit-dumbie. Its always nice to have you older guys to put us young guns in check. Its hard to resist the temptation of the AAS life when your blessed with some pretty weak genes for putting on muscle. You wouldnt even recommend just a teeny tiny dose of test?

 

[eddymerckx]

haha thanks for the input. Yah im pumped for his cook book, im sure there will be lots of goodies. Yah it would be a nice change to have needto as an avatar.

Just curious as to why wait for 4-5 years...because i already have high test levels?

high natty test levels is what your body produces--and is no where near what your level on gear would be.

around 24, your growth plates have fused/bones generally stopped growing....gear before that age can cause this to happen way earlier than normal--so you rob yourself of growth that cannot be had by any chemical--e.g. height, bone structure, etc---i grew almost two inches when i was about 23---and i would not trade that growth for anything that gear could do!!

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Thanks for the good read...feel like a real suit-dumbie. Its always nice to have you older guys to put us young guns in check. Its hard to resist the temptation of the anabolic androgenic steroids life when your blessed with some pretty weak genes for putting on muscle. You wouldnt even recommend just a teeny tiny dose of test?

Your to funny lolol

Brad.

 

[eddymerckx]

Thanks for the good read...feel like a real suit-dumbie. Its always nice to have you older guys to put us young guns in check. Its hard to resist the temptation of the anabolic androgenic steroids life when your blessed with some pretty weak genes for putting on muscle. You wouldnt even recommend just a teeny tiny dose of test?

nope...and you may have "weak genes" for putting on muscle--but that could change in the next few years---why risk it?

 

[xrsist]

haha thanks for the input. Yah im pumped for his cook book, im sure there will be lots of goodies. Yah it would be a nice change to have needto as an avatar.

Just curious as to why wait for 4-5 years...because i already have high test levels?

exactly bro and because you are still growing, thats the main reason imo, you dont wanna stop your natty growth spurts by jabbing aas.

keep your diet tight and get some good supps and wait it out bro at least another year, or 2 if possible

 

[safety4lyfe]

Thanks for the advice EF brothers! Appreciate it.

I guess i can hold of for another year or two....you guys do make a little sense i guess. So whats a guy, with a weak metabolism, looking at for caloric intake at my age?

 

[needtogetaas]

Hey boys, heres my problem. I finally found a reliable source since i moved, but it took some time. It will be my first injectable cycle so obviously test would be the number one choice. But the problem is I wouldn't be able to use testosterone enanthate due to the long ester and fear of drug testing. So I figure Test P would be the next best thing...however, it would take much more frequent injects. And for a first time user, this kinda makes me want to fill my trousers. Another option would be a nice h-gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - only cycle. I've done my fair share of research and it seems like a reasonable choice for the goals i want to achieve.

Im just wondering whats everybody's position on a h=GH only cycle. I would do 2x at EOD somewhere around 2.5IU for 3 or 4 months, depending on the cash flow (maybe even longer) What would a P.CT look like for a cycle like this.

But again, I am still open for a test P cycle..probably dosed 75mg EOD. Appreciate any sort of feedback boys.

Stats: Looking for keepable gains, put on lean muscle and still be able to run fast, since i am a baller

200lbs, 6'05ft, 12.5% BF

How old are you ???

 

[GUARDIAN]

stay natural for awhile

 

[xrsist]

Thanks for the advice EF brothers! Appreciate it.

I guess i can hold of for another year or two....you guys do make a little sense i guess. So whats a guy, with a weak metabolism, looking at for caloric intake at my age?

use tatyanas thread to calculate your bmr bro

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/help-sort-out-your-diet-565562.html

 

[jumpmaster82]

Gear should only be used when you body can make NO more gains natrally, when you hit your physical genetic peak. At that time consider gear. And gh should only he used when the body can make no more gains from gear alone, at that point gh is an option.
And i guarantee that at age 20 your nowhere near your genetic peak natty. Especially not ready for gh. Im almost 26, and i wont even consider using gh til im at the very least 35-40.
and will never ever consider insulin