First Cycle - Redesign, Need Muchos Help

[Synpax]

Today is Tuesday. On Friday I will place my order. I have been planning to do this since the summer of 04. I had an idea of what I wanted the cycle to look like and was actually about to place the order now - but in reviewing it, and revewing past comments on it, I decided to tear it up and turn to you guys for advice.

Here is all the information you should need:
Age - 26
Lifting history - 2.5 years. I lift heavy - been on 5x5 for almost a year. I also do cardio activity - I run marathons and do triathlons. I have a marathon in late July and an Ironman in November. I lift 3 days on, 1 day off. I will repackage my routine when I am juiced to be 2 days on, 1 off.
Height - 5 feet, 9 inches
Weight - 169 lbs
BF - 10%
Diet - Very clean but not too clean these last two months. Normally I live off of oats, skim milk, protein powders (allthewhey concentrate and isolate), flax seed oil (yuck), dextrose, water, and vitamins. Most days I also have a subway sandwhich. I anticipate 4000 calories a day when I start this and have a plan on how to GET Er' Done!
Goals - Look better, Lift more, and improve my endurance training.
Proposed Cycle - I am interested in the following substances - Test Enanthate, Wynstrol, and EQ. I would be interested in the T3.

Additional Note on Hair: I am sensitive to loss of hair. It's thinking out a little in the front corner where I part it. If we can throw something in here that will help me gain some and not just protect against losing it, I'd appreciate it.

Additional Note on Cardio: I run about 30-45 miles a week, bike about 20-30, and swim in the evenings. I really want to look great muscle wise and be stronger, but if you can configure this to incorporate some cardio improvement, that would be great.

Additional Note on health: I am in excellent health and expect to be getting my blood work done every two weeks during this cycle.

Additional note on PCT: I'd really like to have my PCT discussed in this thread.

Additional note on Money: Money is almost no object.

Thanks in advance. Any questions I will be happy to answer. Friday is the day!

 

[black sheep]

Your goals are kind of general.

If you are not looking for a lot of mass, but looking for some strength, gradual quality gains, and money is no object, then

Primo 600mg/week 1-10
Var 40mg ED 3-10

PCT would be a simple Nolva treatment, as those compounds are easy to recover from.

If you are looking for mass, and it is your first cycle, I would recommend 500mg a week of test for 10 weeks and a nolva PCT as well. First cycles should really consist of nothing more than test IMO, unless you are going the Primo/var route.

Blood work every 2 weeks is not really encessary IMO. Before and after is sufficient for a 10 week cycle.

 

[Synpax]

I am interested in mass - maybe gain 15 lbs of muscle, loose 5 lbs of fat. But the strength gain and the endurance gains are what matter, along with *the look.*

 

[black sheep]

I do not really recommend this as a first cycle, but I would do the following with your goals. You should really just run test on your first. With that being said, here is cycle I like.

Week 1-10 Test Cyp (Or Enat) 500mg / week
Week 1-8 Tren 100mg EOD
Week 5-10 Winstol 50mg ED (Oral 25mg 2x daily)

Week 1-10 Dostinex .5mg e3d
Week 1-16 Arimidex .5mg ED
Week 12-14 Clomid 50mg ED
Week 12-16 Nolva 20mg ED

You will make the gains you are looking for with that cycle. It may be a bit harsh for a first cycle.

 

[brandonp005]

just what black sheep said, your first cycle should be

Week 1-10 500mg/week of test eth or cyp.

with nolva being your PCT

 

[satchboogie]

many choices here bro.
for a first cycle, i'd hit it hard and smart!

primo 600mg
susta 250mg
var 50mg
proviron 50mg

that should make you hard as rock with little sides.
run it for 10-12.

 

[Synpax]

many choices here bro.
for a first cycle, i'd hit it hard and smart!

primo 600mg
susta 250mg
var 50mg
proviron 50mg

that should make you hard as rock with little sides.
run it for 10-12.

Dossages?

 

[black sheep]

Week 1-10 Sust 250mg/ week
Week 1-10 Prino 600mg/ Week
Week 3-10 Var 40mg ED

That would be a nice cyle as well.

 

[shamrock11]

I would do just a test cycle the first time at 500mg/week. after you put on the muscle you want you can cut back down after.

 

[Synpax]

Week 1-10 Sust 250mg/ week
Week 1-10 Prino 600mg/ Week
Week 3-10 Var 40mg ED

That would be a nice cyle as well.

I am 90% certain that by Var you mean Anavar - relatively weak androgen/steriod, good for maintaining mass, no need for anti-E?

 

[Bruce]

i would have to recommend deca at 600 a week, and var 40ed, would rec winstrol but your joints might be angry with me. i am on week 10 of 12 week deca win cycle, put on 17 lbs of solid shredded muscle. if you don't get deca dick or ain't fuckin, then you don't need test, i get more sex drive on deca many do not. i just think deca and winstrol gives you strength and speed. go
deca 600 weeks 1-12
winstrol 50mg ed weeks 9-14
or
deca 600 weeks 1-12
var 40 ed weeks 9-14
good luck

 

[black sheep]

I am 90% certain that by Var you mean Anavar - relatively weak androgen/steriod, good for maintaining mass, no need for anti-E?

With the cycle I suggested you should not need to take any anti-e's, BUT, everyone is different.

You should ALWAYS have nolva on hand, if you are not going to take arimidex (Which I don't think is at all necessary for this cycle).

You are right about Anavar. Great cycle - Satch can confirm that!

 

[cornfish]

many choices here bro.
for a first cycle, i'd hit it hard and smart!

primo 600mg
susta 250mg
var 50mg
proviron 50mg

that should make you hard as rock with little sides.
run it for 10-12.

Go with this one man. Satch knows his stuff inside and out, and the biggest benefit to this is that if your PCT is spot-on you will keep everything you gained running this cycle.

 

[Synpax]

Go with this one man. Satch knows his stuff inside and out, and the biggest benefit to this is that if your PCT is spot-on you will keep everything you gained running this cycle.

He is using short hand and I need to know what the PCT needs to look like.

I am unsure of the dosages he is talking about - I know the drugs and what they do but I am guessing the primo and susta are on a weekly basis and the var and and proviron are daily?

I really like the idea of using sustanon.

 

[black sheep]

He is using short hand and I need to know what the PCT needs to look like.

I am unsure of the dosages he is talking about - I know the drugs and what they do but I am guessing the primo and susta are on a weekly basis and the var and and proviron are daily?

I really like the idea of using sustanon.

Drop the Proviron, just run Sust/Primo/Var the way I layed it out for you. You don't need 4 compounds for a first.

I agree with Satch that is a great cycle, it is just more than you need. You will have AWESOME results for the cycle I layed out for you.

PCT will be 20mg of Nolva ED for 5 weeks, start 1 week after last test injection.

 

[Synpax]

Drop the Proviron, just run Sust/Primo/Var the way I layed it out for you. You don't need 4 compounds for a first.

I agree with Satch that is a great cycle, it is just more than you need. You will have AWESOME results for the cycle I layed out for you.

PCT will be 20mg of Nolva ED for 5 weeks, start 1 week after last test injection.

Thanks for the advice. I am unsure of why I shouldn't use the proviron. It's benefits are that it will work similar to an anti-e in effect and will increase my healing rate which is important with all the running I do.

Do you think I could throw some HGH in there too or would that be counter-beneficial?

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Proviron won't hurt you, it can help fight off gyno, make you want to screw like a rabbit and harden you up, but the winny may be bad for the hairline and bad for your joints, especiallu with your being an endurance athlete.

If you have no issues with pins, why not just go with Test E or C alone, and see how your body reacts? The other cycles with multiple compounds will still be waiting for you when you are done.

Good luck either way, and keep us updated. We are both athletes and about the same size, so I will be curious of your gains.


Bluesman