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kdc1023

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After doing alot of research and just reading this forum I feel that I am not ready for my first cycle yet but I would like to get some opinions from this community on what a first cycle can be. I've heard that Test Enth and only that would be ideal just to see how your body reacts but I would also like to know what products are good to buy for pct. I am 20yrs old (keep in mind this cycle will be done farther in the future I'd just like some opinions) I weigh around 183lbs after pct of doing a pro-hormone. I finished that about 2 months ago. I have been training for 4 years on and off. When i started lifting again about 6 months ago i weighed 149lbs. My height is 6'3" I keep my diet around 3000 calories a day high in protein. I currently take Twinlabs Fish/Flax oil, Stress tabs(multivitamin), glucosamine chondroitin. The Pro-hormone that i took was Sus500 and I followed with a pct of NovedexXT(I kno prlly not the best pct). I did experience a little acne on my back but that was all manageable from tanning. Basically I just wanna know what I should use first cycle? How many weeks? Typical dosage? Is Hcg needed? If so when do I start Hcg? Should I keep Nolva or Clomid on hand and why? I would really appreciate some advice I kno i have a lot more to gain naturally I'm just trying to educate myself on being safe.

EDIT: sry i forgot to include my BF% its around 6-7%
 
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Cant give you information until your 21 eat clean and lift hard and wait till you older and maxed out naturally is what everyone is going to tell you. Your test levels should be high right now
 
holy shit, someone realized on their own theyre too young for juice. theres hope afterall.
 
holy shit, someone realized on their own theyre too young for juice. theres hope afterall.


Ya Ï'm aware im too young for juice and the whole reason I know that is because of what I have learned from reading this forum but I am trying to further educate myself on these things so any information you can give me without violating any rules would be appreciated.
 
Sounds like youre tall and skinny, which is not necessarily a bad thing as you probably dont get fat easily. I would say your plan for now is gain natural mass without putting too much fat on, but I think you could afford to gain some fat also since you are pretty low at 6-7% currently. Should raise the calories to 3700-4000 a day and train for mass. Protein should be at 1-1.5 grams per pound bodyweight, others are more knowledgeable regarding diet than I am. Try to keep your training consistent instead of "on and off". for your height I would say put on a solid 25 more natural pounds before thinking about roids. And dont bother with prohormones anymore.
As for a first cycle, theres a lot of options. here are a few off the top of my head:

A. Test cyp: 300mg/wk, 10 weeks
B. EQ: 300mg/wk, 12 weeks
C. EQ: 300mg/wk 12 weeks, DBol: 20mg/day weeks 1-5
D. Test cyp: 200mg/wk 10 weeks, Deca: 200mg/wk 10 weeks
E. Test Cyp: 200mg/wk 10 weeks, EQ: 200mg/wk 10 weeks
F. Test Cyp: 300mg/wk 10 weeks, Winstrol: 50mg/day weeks 5-10
G. EQ: 300mg/wk 12 weeks, Winstrol: 50mg/day weeks 7-12

Any one of these is a solid first cycle and will really give you a taste of what roids are all about. As for PCT, have on hand BEFORE you even start the cycle:
Nolvadex: 10mg tabs, 50 tabs total
HCG: 10,000 IUs total
Syringes: 20 @ 22gauge, 1.5", 3ml volume
For any of those given cycles, the nolvadex should be started a week after your last injection, at 10mg/day. If you feel your nipples get sensitive during the cycle, begin the nolva immediately at 10mg/day until nipples sensitivity subsides. HCG should start a week after your last injection also at a dose of 1500 IU injected every 4th day for a total of 3 weeks.
Everything above is very basic, and for a young person with a first cycle it should be kept as simple as possible. Im sure what I said isnt perfect but its all off the top of my head. A really good book is Anabolics 2009 by Bill Llewellyn, should be able to find it on the internet easily. Hope that helps.
 
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Sounds like youre tall and skinny, which is not necessarily a bad thing as you probably dont get fat easily. I would say your plan for now is gain natural mass without putting too much fat on, but I think you could afford to gain some fat also since you are pretty low at 6-7% currently. Should raise the calories to 3700-4000 a day and train for mass. Protein should be at 1-1.5 grams per pound bodyweight, others are more knowledgeable regarding diet than I am. Try to keep your training consistent instead of "on and off". for your height I would say put on a solid 25 more natural pounds before thinking about roids. And dont bother with prohormones anymore.
As for a first cycle, theres a lot of options. here are a few off the top of my head:

A. Test cyp: 300mg/wk, 10 weeks
B. EQ: 300mg/wk, 12 weeks
C. EQ: 300mg/wk 12 weeks, DBol: 20mg/day weeks 1-5
D. Test cyp: 200mg/wk 10 weeks, Deca: 200mg/wk 10 weeks
E. Test Cyp: 200mg/wk 10 weeks, EQ: 200mg/wk 10 weeks
F. Test Cyp: 300mg/wk 10 weeks, Winstrol: 50mg/day weeks 5-10
G. EQ: 300mg/wk 12 weeks, Winstrol: 50mg/day weeks 7-12

Any one of these is a solid first cycle and will really give you a taste of what roids are all about. As for PCT, have on hand BEFORE you even start the cycle:
Nolvadex: 10mg tabs, 50 tabs total
HCG: 10,000 IUs total
Syringes: 20 @ 22gauge, 1.5", 3ml volume
For any of those given cycles, the nolvadex should be started a week after your last injection, at 10mg/day. If you feel your nipples get sensitive during the cycle, begin the nolva immediately at 10mg/day until nipples sensitivity subsides. HCG should start a week after your last injection also at a dose of 1500 IU injected every 4th day for a total of 3 weeks.
Everything above is very basic, and for a young person with a first cycle it should be kept as simple as possible. Im sure what I said isnt perfect but its all off the top of my head. A really good book is Anabolics 2009 by Bill Llewellyn, should be able to find it on the internet easily. Hope that helps.


Good post bro!
 
my first cycle was the the classic 500mg test c 1-12 and dbol 40mg/ed 1-4. pretty much i would say test and one oral would be a good first cycle. just my 2cc. i'm really proud of you coming to your senses about waiting tho. that shows some real maturity and patience, i think it will serve you well in accomplishing your goals.

also i would like to say that i prefer the TRS from Primordial Performance along with something like unleashed or forged (to raise free test) and a liver sup for pct. never been a fan of nolva and clomid myself. use an ai like aromasin or arimidex for estrogen control on cycle.

another way to run the hcg is during the cycle. just keep the 10,000ius you would of used at the end and use it at 250iu's monday and thursday while on cycle to keep the boys plump.
 
After doing alot of research and just reading this forum I feel that I am not ready for my first cycle yet but I would like to get some opinions from this community on what a first cycle can be. I've heard that Test Enth and only that would be ideal just to see how your body reacts but I would also like to know what products are good to buy for pct. I am 20yrs old (keep in mind this cycle will be done farther in the future I'd just like some opinions) I weigh around 183lbs after pct of doing a pro-hormone. I finished that about 2 months ago. I have been training for 4 years on and off. When i started lifting again about 6 months ago i weighed 149lbs. My height is 6'3" I keep my diet around 3000 calories a day high in protein. I currently take Twinlabs Fish/Flax oil, Stress tabs(multivitamin), glucosamine chondroitin. The Pro-hormone that i took was Sus500 and I followed with a pct of NovedexXT(I kno prlly not the best pct). I did experience a little acne on my back but that was all manageable from tanning. Basically I just wanna know what I should use first cycle? How many weeks? Typical dosage? Is Hcg needed? If so when do I start Hcg? Should I keep Nolva or Clomid on hand and why? I would really appreciate some advice I kno i have a lot more to gain naturally I'm just trying to educate myself on being safe.

EDIT: sry i forgot to include my BF% its around 6-7%

SUS500 made my nipples sore and killed my libido. I got great results from TEST400 by FightLabs. My gains were hard and dry. Didn't mess with my sex life LOL!!
 
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