first cycle question

[onerepmaximum]

I looked around and did a search before I posted this. I hate when people ask a question that has been asked 100 times before, just because they are too lazy to do some research. That being said, I didn't find an answer to this question.

I have been advised that when doing your first cycle, you might as well not waste your time with low doses. Something about your first cycle is your best chance for huge results and if you don't do it right, you are lessening the effect of any future cycle. Do you agree with that? This is just a general question, that's why I haven't posted any numbers. A big cycle to one person, may not be to the next. I'm just trying to see if you guys agree with the idea that your first cycle is the most important.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I don't think it is the most important, but alot of guys want fast gains for their first, so they should use the doses necissary to obtain their goals. Again, pointing to current research on weight training subjects... test have been on on up to 600 mg of test enathate a week, and men given 600 mg gain almost twice as much lbm as men given 300 mg. It is assumed most of the subjects had not used steroids before. The subjects given 600 mg, in the studies done, saw no negative side effects, other than slightly elevated HDL cholesterol. 10 mg of nolvadex a day can easily solve that. If research shows additional gains, with no diminished returns per mg used, by going as high as 600 mg with minimal side effects, then why NOT go with 600 mg of test a week as a first cycle?

 

[onerepmaximum]

bump for more opinions.

 

[onerepmaximum]

Maybe I should have asked if you can drink winstrol.

 

[JohnD.]

yes, u can drink it, but wtf?!

I think you should start with a moderate doses, keeps space for progress in the future.

 

[onerepmaximum]

Actually, I was messing about the winstrol thing. But thanks for the input on the dosage.

 

[JohnD.]

and btw: winstrol is shit. it s a pretty toxic drug and I wouldn t recommend it to anyone, who is not competing. and you can t really use it for bulking.

just my 2 cents

 

[Mini Viper]

Winstrol is heavy on the joints, one of the sides: joint pain

 

[onerepmaximum]

This thread is not about winstrol, but thanks. I only brought it up because only BBF commented about my initial question. I am not, nor do I intend to use winny until I'm cutting for my next show.

 

[Mini Viper]

Sorry bro. got carried out reading the post replies.

BTW, I'd like to compete in a couple of years when I'm ready, do you mind telling me how I can enter competitions for like beginners. Thanks