First Cycle Question, Please help.

[Cusovr6]

Hey all, new member here first post.

I am currently taking Winstrol 50mg once a day in the morning in Pill form. I am taking it about and hour before I eat anything and am experiencing a bit of discomfort in my lower right side of abdomin area. Once I get 2-3 meals in me around 1pm and plenty of water I feel fine, its just the mornings I am experiencing this discomfort. I was thinking I should wait and take it with my first meal. I have heard this is somewhat hard on the liver like any steroid and I should expect this a bit. I have been on for 3 weeks now, my first two weeks I was reccomended to do 50mg every other day and beginning the third week 50mg/day for the remaining 6 weeks.

I am also taking ALA 800mg per day. Eating 6 to 7 healthy meals per day depending on how hungry I am as well.

Is this discomfort common?

Any help is appreciated!!!

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Common enough. Many orals can cause gastric distress. You have it right, take it with food.

I won't comment on the relative effectiveness of 50mg of winstrol and nothing else, but I am sure others will. At least you are taking liver protectants.


Bluesman

 

[Cusovr6]

Steve thanks for your help, are there other things that can help me protect my liver better than the ALA?

 

[taoiron]

Bro… Oral only cycle = CRAP…. Get some pins and do it right!

 

[Cusovr6]

Now I have read differently, I know when using a needle it only passes through the liver once instead of twice via pill, but have heard many good things about the pill as well. I can definitely tell my workouts and recovery time have improved and my muscles are definitely harder. I know this isn't a mass gaining steroid which wasn't one of my goals. Can anyne tell me otherwise, or experiences taking winstrol only via pill form?

 

[Neo22]

Bro… Oral only cycle = CRAP…. Get some pins and do it right!

He's taking winstrol its perfectly fine to take it alone.

 

[Cusovr6]

Thanks Neo thats what I thought. I actually bought two cycles to save a little money, but when I do my second cycle I plan on stacking it with something else. What are reccomendations of something to cycle with the Winstrol? I am planning on my second cycle beginning in April.

 

[taoiron]

He's taking winstrol its perfectly fine to take it alone.

OK…OK…. Maybe crap is a little harsh. If one chooses to manipulate your hormones, you might as well go all out. Its kind of like putting gas in your car a gallon at a time..
You will get to where you want to go.. It’s just going to take a lot longer to get there!!

 

[Cusovr6]

Well I changed from taking it in the am first thing to lunch with 2 meals in me, what a difference. The discomfort is gone, thanks for everyone's input.

 

[BigCracker]

350 mgs of Winstrol a week for 8 weeks and you're worried about liver problems? A 1/2 semester of college binge drinking would likely be more harmful to your liver. I know guys that have taken two thousand mgs/ of various toxicity AAS a week for 20 yrs straight and they don't have liver problems. I'm not going to flame-you but I will advise you to do some more research on AAS(becoming an EF member is a good start-props to you for that). How old are you anyway?

Next time around try stacking some sort of injectable test(and take a minimum of 200 mgs/week of it-you won't have a heart attack, I promise) in addition to your 50 mgs/daily of Winnie V. You'll have better gains and with a decent pct you'll hold on to a lot more too. A few posts up someone said taking Winnie V is fine to take alone. I agree-but I think that pertains mainly to someone that's used AAS for awhile, has a decent base physique, etc. If you're a newbie, I think stacking an oral and an injectable is the better way to go. Just my 2cc's

 

[Bruce]

all he needs to do is run a solid nolva pct at the end and he should keep his gains from winstrol. i used 40mg ed of nolva for a week then two more at 20mg ed after my tbol only cycle and i didn't lose a thing.

 

[BigCracker]

all he needs to do is run a solid nolva pct at the end and he should keep his gains from winstrol. i used 40mg ed of nolva for a week then two more at 20mg ed after my tbol only cycle and i didn't lose a thing.

That's true for you-but would that be true for a guy that has very little time in the gym under his belt and/or weighs a buck-o-five to begin with? Based on the thread poster's liver damage related paranoia I'm guessing he might not have much of a base yet? If this is the case(which it may or may not be) don't you think he'd do better with a longer acting injectable test in addition to, or even instead of V?

 

[Slyder190]

Bro… Oral only cycle = CRAP…. Get some pins and do it right!

What he said.

 

[alcatraz1662]

Definitely get on the needle. At least try a couple cycles with Test E or C only, and I think you'll like your gains better than a Winni only cycle. It's not that bad, bro. It feels weird the first time having a little prick in you, but you'll learn to love it