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aconnelly46

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ok so this is my first cycle and i want to do it big and be done with it...im 5'10 155lb with not so good of a build...i want to loose the beer gut, gain SOME mass, and have a good solid body with lean muscle..im an active rock climber...i was thinking about doing 400mg of deca per week, 250 sustanon per week, and 50mg of winstrol per day...does anyone think its to accessive or i should change something or i will hurt my body.....i just want some feedback before i get into it...thanks
 
i think that it is excessve. How long have you been training? What does yer diet look like? You are pretty small...and have a beer gut. Ithink u should get your diet and training in order b4 you think about gas. Also 3 compounds for your first cycle is a horrible idea.
 
hey thanks alot for replying...i think i should have been more specific about everything...i havnt been lifting in a while but i am an active rock climber that has been training hard for years...the winter is coming up and with a full pre med course load its gunna be really hard to get out there and train so i thought i would lift...i just cant seem to kick this little bit of fat off my abs... my main goal is to get lean mass and tone up...ive actually tried deca 200 alone and didnt notice much about 2 years ago so thats y i wanted to stack...my diet is in check..i eat well and i eat often...im not a fat ass but it seems like the baby fat jus never fell off.
 
I think you need to get used to going in the gym, weight training, and eating right to support it naturally awhile before you jump on the AS bandwagon. By gaining muscle so quickly it won't give your tendons/joints time to strengthen as well, resulting in injury-a setback that could fuck you up worse than anything. It sounds to me like your lifestyle isn't conducive for serious bodybuilding anytime soon cuz your schedule is so demanding. This isn't something that you can "half ass" your way through. If you approached school with the same attitude you'd be saying "I wanna finish med school but I'm only gonna study just enough to keep from failing" With that attitude I highly doubt you'll be graduating/interning/ establishing your own practice to pay back that monster student loan anytime soon.

Anyway, it's your body to do with as you please. If you're gonna do it, I recommend a test only cycle of 200mgs-500mgs a week tops for 8-10 wks. Everybody's body responds differently to different drugs, so by using one drug instead of 3 you'll know exactly what gave you(or didn't give you) the results that you want. You also won't be wasting $$$ by using more AS than your body can handle so soon in the game.

Keep in mind that going to the gym and using AS is the easy part. Your lifestyle outside of the gym is truly what will make the difference in the appearance of your physique. Personally I feel that you have too much on your plate w/ med school to even consider trying to obtain the physique that you require-with or without AS. It seems like you want to use AS as a crutch to get you through a somewhat half assed training regimen as opposed to enhancing a flawless one. I've been training people on and off for 17 yrs, and I have yet to see a Dr or Lawyer balance their career, training, and social life successfully. So I can only imagine it's going to be an even bigger miracle for you reach your fitness goals. You really need to think out your career path well before you sign on for something like med school. Every Dr I've met is as tired on a day to day basis as a single mom with 2 kids and a full time waitressing job. My clients that are Drs show up to the gym on very little sleep in a zombie like state. Chances are that from a health perspective they'd be better off getting more sleep and doing full body routines on the soloflex at home 20 mins EOD. Sure, they may roll up to the gym in a phat S500 Benz, but they shouldn't expect to have this killer physique since the majority of their time is invested in earning $$$. It's no different than being a personal trainer that works 25 hrs a week tops that's living above his means and trying to make a $1600/month Benz payment-unless you're one of those Hollywood trainers of the stars, or you're independently wealthy to begin with, it probably aint happening unless you work twice as much(causing your own training to suffer). Anyway, sorry if I sound a bit harsh-but since fitness has been a part of my life since I was a kid, I knew from about age 21 on that having a career outside of the fitness industry wasn't going to be for me. Sure, being a Dr and serving mankind is a nobel thing to do-but in no way is it conducive to living the bodybuilding lifestyle-at least if you want a social life and getting laid once in awhile.
 
thanks for the advise but im not looking to become a body builder...i just want to look good...ive worked out my whole life until i found rock climbing...i got sloppy for a few years and now im trying to come back but i think this time i want a little help...test 500 sounds good but i want to cut more than i want to bulk...so i added winny and to give me the little extra boost i added the deca...i dont know =...my reasearch has lead me to believe that deca is the best stuff out there to add to anything with minimal sides to worry about...and if i did just deca and sus it would make me big and not cut...i really just want to do it once then be done...im not looking to get huge i just feel my body needs to look better...i really take what you said to heart so dont think im being hard headed...but i will make sacrifices and work extra hard too achieve my goal..after reading this if you could reply that would be awsome
 
aconnelly46 said:
thanks for the advise but im not looking to become a body builder...i just want to look good...


Bro, looking good or being a bodybuilder requires the same exact shit to get to where you wanna go. You're implying that being a bodybuilder requires more effort than just looking good-which is absolutely false. It's the same path, and requires the same things(training, diet, rest) it's just that becoming a great bodybuilder requires more time-but no less effort.
 
i understand that and i plan on paying my dues and working hard...thanks for looking out tho

whats the risks of using the three compunds together?
 
Winny would be pointless if you have a high bf%.All you need is test at 250mg/wk for about 10wks.Train hard,eat right and get in some cardio. Post up your diet so we can help with that also.
 
well i already bought the deca...think it would hurt to do it?? and if i do can i do 400mg/wk?
and sus 250mg/wk

diet
breakfast:
fruit, bagle with peanutbutter
lunch:
anything from burger-chicken-turkey with some veggies
snack:
protein shake or bar
-gym-
protein shake
dinner:
chicken or pasta
bedtime:
protein

and cardo in the AM or when im at the gym?
 
Your test should be higher than the deca.You should visit the diet forum to see what a real diet looks like.A bagel and peanut butter is not what you need for breakfast.You need some egg whites,chicken breast,lean beef,turkey breast just to get you started.You need to do some good research on the diet board before you start a cycle.
 
I would run the sus at 500 mg a week and keep the Deca at 400 mg a week. Make sure you have clomid for the end of you cycle before you start or you will screw yourself out of all your gains. But before you do anything loose the beer gut doing cardio and then start you cycle. trust me you will be much happier with the results.
 
thanks for all the imput fellas..i think im going to run a cycle of sus for 5 weeks doing 250mg on monday and 250mg on friday then 400mg of deca on monday...feedback???

also im going to eat like mad and run in the mornings.
 
aconnelly46 said:
well i already bought the deca...think it would hurt to do it?? and if i do can i do 400mg/wk?
and sus 250mg/wk

diet
breakfast:
fruit, bagle with peanutbutter
lunch:
anything from burger-chicken-turkey with some veggies
snack:
protein shake or bar
-gym-
protein shake
dinner:
chicken or pasta
bedtime:
protein

and cardo in the AM or when im at the gym?
You need to get ur diet in check first!
 
dude you are 150# and you havent been to a gym in ages. Yet you are going to shoot nearly a gram of gear per week. I would advise against it (refer to big crackers post). However, since you already have your gear and your mind is made up...best of luck to you.
 
aconnelly46 said:
thanks for all the imput fellas..i think im going to run a cycle of sus for 5 weeks doing 250mg on monday and 250mg on friday then 400mg of deca on monday...feedback???

also im going to eat like mad and run in the mornings.
Eating like mad won"t get rid of the ab fat.That cycle won't do much without the proper diet and training. Why are you in such a rush to do this cycle?
 
aconnelly46 said:
thanks for all the imput fellas..i think im going to run a cycle of sus for 5 weeks doing 250mg on monday and 250mg on friday then 400mg of deca on monday...feedback???

also im going to eat like mad and run in the mornings.

I love it when newbies ask for help and then do what they want to anyway. It reminds me of the new guy in the gym that ignores the gym vets advice to do heavy bench presses and flys for pec development by avoiding those exercises completely and doing cable cross overs and pec dec flys instead. I love how they're so confident in their own knowledge that they think they're going to re-invent the wheel by blatantly ignoring experienced lifter's advice. It's almost like they think they're Neo from the Matrix. As if they're the chosen one that's going to revolutionize the sport of bodybuilding with their own trial and error because they have been chosen by a greater power to do so. WTF?

And bro, what about the deca in the Sustanon you're not accounting for in your 400 mg/wk of deca dosage? Did you even know Sustanon contains deca? If you did, you'd realize that you'd actually be taking more deca than test per week-which is a no-no in my book. But what do I know? I'm 6ft and 290 lbs and wear 36 inch waist jeans. I'm not pro, nor do I have the desire to compete any longer, but when I was competing I held ciity, state, and regional bodybuilding titles. Plus I've only been bodybuilding for 20 yrs or so . Therefore your past dabblings in the gym have provided you with infinite wisdom you could never acquire from a shmuk like myself. In fact, maybe you could start your own msg boards to teach us how to not listen to others with more knowledge and real life BB experiences to share?

Srry for the sarcasm, but I watched Dennis Miller the other night and he alwys brings out the dick in me.
 
Hitting the gym,doing your cardio and getting your diet right is the best advice I can give to you. Gear is not a free pass to be half-assed in your efforts. Lots of luck to ya
 
in not looking for it to be a free pass to do anything...i plan on working hard and dedicating myself to keeping my body in good shape during and after i run the cycle.. next summer i plan on climbing "the nose" of el cap and i need to be in tip top shape for that...so trust me i know what to i have to do.

anyone have advise on QV Deca 400 from IP and IP Sust 250...im starting hearing bad things??
 
bro....you are not listening to what any of the bros are saying to you and you keep asking questions....fuckin listen...for your own bodies sake!
 
aconnelly46 said:
in not looking for it to be a free pass to do anything...i plan on working hard and dedicating myself to keeping my body in good shape during and after i run the cycle.. next summer i plan on climbing "the nose" of el cap and i need to be in tip top shape for that...so trust me i know what to i have to do.

anyone have advise on QV Deca 400 from IP and IP Sust 250...im starting hearing bad things??

1st - IP is SHIT gear, the QV is fake for sure as is the "sus-a-ton", just look around on ANY AAS board if you don't believe me.

2nd - your acting like a total retard. People are telling you not to do it and you reply w/ "I am going on a vacation". Do you realize you could DIE from 1 injection? Do you realize that you will loose 100% of what you gain? Why will you not listen to the people you are asking for advice?

So - take the FAKE gear you have - cause it is fake for 100% sure - and toss that shit. Train like your taking AAS and see what happens. The best thing for you is food - I mean you are a buck-fifty for Gods sake. That is not a good starting weight at all - unless your 4'2".
 
That is not a good starting weight at all - unless your 4'2".[/QUOTE]



oooooo motted do you guys remember that from like the early ninties....hahah motted
 
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