first cycle please critique

[havoc_reign]

10 week cycle

200mg wk test

200mg wk deca

and 4iu eod jintropin for 250 days (125 jects) jintropin for one month then start test and deca

anti e LiquiNolva 50 mg ed while on test and deca

PCT 14 days clen

 

[BiG n Natural]

u need better pct, on doses like that u wont need hcg but clomid and nolv

and 50mg nolv while on is too much, take 10 if ur being cautious, at ur dose i dont think ull need any at all, if u notice signs start taking 20 a day

 

[ruggermu]

OK, I have no experience with GH, so I'll just not go there. But as far as the AAS I think it needs adjusting. I think if you just upped the test to 400, and held off on the deca that would be best. I think it will be more effictive to do either one alone at that dose then do both at so low a dose. This way you will also see how you react to one steroid and if you get sides you'll know what from. If you insist on stacking round one I would say run either inject at around 400/week, and maybe Dbol first 4 weeks.

 

[havoc_reign]

ye sas i said is first cycle and i want to see how my body reacts then if all goes well i will up the dosage of test and deca when i do second cycle

 

[ruggermu]

I understand what your saying but if you want to try a mild first cycle to see how you react pick either deca or test. Most will suggest
test at 250-500/week. But I ran deca alone for my first cycle and was pleased. But test is your easiest road. Sides are easier and cheaper to combat with just L-dex at .5 ed through your cycle. Deca's actually no harder just dostinex every 4 days, dost is just more expensive.
But it's your call so good luck.

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

10 week cycle

200mg wk test

200mg wk deca

and 4iu eod jintropin for 250 days (125 jects) jintropin for one month then start test and deca

anti e LiquiNolva 50 mg ed while on test and deca

PCT 14 days clen

I am all for low dosages, but those are way low.

Also wondering what is your thought basis for using HGH with a 1st cycle? That shit is big $$$, better to have a cycle or two under your belt so you can put the HGH to it's best use when you are spot on.

I would also suggest test @ 250-325/wk as a starter. If you want to stack, start with Dbol for the 1st month. If the Dbol causes issues with sides, you can stop and it will clear in a couple of days.


Bluesman

 

[sweed]

I understand what your saying but if you want to try a mild first cycle to see how you react pick either deca or test. Most will suggest
test at 250-500/week. But I ran deca alone for my first cycle and was pleased. But test is your easiest road. Sides are easier and cheaper to combat with just L-dex at .5 ed through your cycle. Deca's actually no harder just dostinex every 4 days, dost is just more expensive.
But it's your call so good luck.

ya bro... just test first cycle 4-500 mgs... if running btoh then u dont know where the side ( if any) are comin from. you'll gain nicely just off test.. deca/test can wait for 2nd.
Ruggers... looks like a nice cycler there my friend

 

[ruggermu]

ya bro... just test first cycle 4-500 mgs... if running btoh then u dont know where the side ( if any) are comin from. you'll gain nicely just off test.. deca/test can wait for 2nd.
Ruggers... looks like a nice cycler there my friend

Thanks, I just started on the 1st, If I remember right you got the same general thing planned minus the fina at the end. It should be fun

 

[havoc_reign]

the hgh is for many reasons some are fat burning added muscle groth and lig and tendon strengthing

 

[havoc_reign]

i yhink i might go with 300mg wk test and save the deca for 2nd round

 

[havoc_reign]

hgh 1650 us for 500iu with delivery insurance so yes big $$$$$

 

[Demonix]

I did test only first cycle. And I kind of wish I had a little more. Like dbol to start out with. It sucked waiting 4 weeks for test to kick in really. And the test did give me some strenght gains, but it made me more leaner than stronger. I did enjoy getting more leaner and defined, but I was looking for strength more for sports.

And if you do get sides from test - what are you going to do never run test again?

Personally I would run what you first posted with a little more higher doses - minus the high does of nov.

 

[slat1]

Nice to see all you guys asked for his stats before making recomendations. I am assuming you all know him, his stats, his diet and training too!

 

[ruggermu]

Nice to see all you guys asked for his stats before making recomendations. I am assuming you all know him, his stats, his diet and training too!

Good point, that one kinda slipped by.