first cycle - Please advise

[mvmaxx]

mkay, I posted a cycle earlier and got bashed as I didn't have everything included. I also got that anadrol is harsh and so I've cut down the amounts. I have worked out this cycle with a pro bb that I will use as my first. I'm currently 190lbs and 6' at about 12%bf. I've trained for the past 6 years or so.

I need advice on the following:

-Liquidex amount
-clomid amount
-cutting cycle (when, what)

Here is the cycle. I want to incorporate a cutting cycle afterwards. How long should I wait and what is recommended? I've been thinking of Wini and EQ.


Test Durateston - weeks 1-3 250mg
week 4 off
weeks 5-7 500mg (250mg 2x in a week)

Decca - weeks 1-7 - 200mg (1cc)

AD50 - weeks 1 - 1/4 pill
weeks 2-3 - 1/2 pill
weeks 4-7 - 1 pill

Liquidex - weeks 1-7 - .25ED?

Clomid - weeks 5-8? amount?

I am trying to add some mass and strength. I was told that by taking the week off of the Test that it will have a greater effect once I reintroduce it.

Let me know what you think and please be constructive. Thanks!

 

[genarr3]

Test Durateston - weeks 1-3 250mg
week 4 off
weeks 5-7 500mg (250mg 2x in a week)

Reverse that. Do the 500mg the first two weeks for a frontload. There is no logic at all behind taking a week off. Pro BB or not, whoever told you to do that really doesn't know what they are doing. You also should run the sust for at least 8 weeks.
Run the deca the same length of time as the sust.
Run the AD for 4-5 weeks in the begining there is no need to taper.
Here's all the clomid info you'll need:
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29091&highlight=clomid+faq

Liquidex - weeks 1-7 - .25ED

That's a good dosage, just run it the entire length of the cycle including while using clomid.

 

[mvmaxx]

So what you're saying is:

Test Durateston - weeks 1-2 - 500mg
weeks 2-8 - 250mg (should I taper the last week?)

Anadrol (AD50) - weeks 1-5 - 1pill

Decca - weeks 1-8 - 200mg (1cc)

Liquidex - weeks 1-7 - .25ED

Clomid - week 10 - 1 day @ 300mg then 100mgED for 10 days, then 50mgED for 10 days
-based on "The Iron Game's" article

If I wanted to do a cutting cycle of Winny and EQ when should I start and what should the dosages be?

 

[kaoz&zen]

For your second cycle just remember, time on= time off. Or are you saying you want to combine the two cycles? If the latter is the case here's a thought using current dosages. For better elaboration ask M_18 or ultra, they're especially knowledgeable when it comes to cycles.

Week AD50 Eq Deca DTest Winny
1 50mg/ed 6-800mg 200mg
2 50mg/ed 6-800mg 200mg
3 50mg/ed 4-600mg 200mg
4 50mg/ed 4-600mg 200mg
5 4-600mg 200mg 500mg
6 4-600mg 200mg 500mg
7 4-600mg 200mg 250mg 50-100mg/ed
8 4-600mg 200mg 250mg 50-100mg/ed
9 4-600mg 250mg 50-100mg/ed
10 4-600mg 250mg 50-100mg/ed
11 4-600mg 250mg 50-100mg/ed
12 4-600mg 250mg 50-100mg/ed


Okay, strange looking. Front load the eq or just let AD50 jumpstart cycle by itself? Yes, 2 week break b/t orals in order to give liver a slight rest. Do you guys think this would be needed? Should test be run all the way through instead? or perhaps wks 1-8 and leave winny and eq to run alone. Maybe shorten cycle to 10 weeks, give no rest for orals, that way winny combats prog of deca from start. (i forgot to account for this at first) Okay test starts week 5 since deca isn't kicking in till then anyway and c.150mg of test will be in system the week of injection b/c of fast acting esters. Running two orals continuosly, remember liver protectants. Follow up with clomid therapy and perhaps run arimidex. What do you guys think. Hope you didn't mean two seperate cycles, if so i guess i just wasted everyone's time, ah well

P.S. take with a grain of salt, i'm far from an exert on cycles, so i could be greatly off on this.

 

[genarr3]

So what you're saying is:

Test Durateston - weeks 1-2 - 500mg
weeks 2-8 - 250mg (should I taper the last week?)

Anadrol (AD50) - weeks 1-5 - 1pill

Decca - weeks 1-8 - 200mg (1cc)

Liquidex - weeks 1-7 - .25ED

Clomid - week 10 - 1 day @ 300mg then 100mgED for 10 days, then 50mgED for 10 days
-based on "The Iron Game's" article

If I wanted to do a cutting cycle of Winny and EQ when should I start and what should the dosages be?

Yeah that looks good. Only thing is the Liquidex should be run the entire length of the cycle. Even while using clomid if you have enough.
I happened to stumble across this excellent post, give it a read:
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=23794&highlight=Anadrol

 

[mvmaxx]

Yeah that looks good. Only thing is the Liquidex should be run the entire length of the cycle. Even while using clomid if you have enough.
threadid=23794&highlight=Anadrol[/url]

Thanks. Yeah, I f'd up when I pasted the liquidex amount. I changed it on my other post on the platinum board.
Liquidex weeks 1 - end of clomid therapy.

I'm checking out that article now....