first cycle plans re-done: answers & comments please

[Quiet Storm]

ok, i decided to use test prop injecting 50mg EOD for 6 to 8 weeks.
thats about 200mg/week. ill be using 25gauge-1inch needles so i can rotate sites alot as people who have done test prop tell me it can hurt! im still deciding if i should use clomid or nolvadex for gyno containment during cycle if it pops up and most importantly post-cycle therapy. ive heard differing opinions. some say 50mg of clomid a day or 100mg/day. with such a light cycle is using 50mg/day for about 2 weeks fine? with nolv everyone seems to agree 20-40mg/day is best. depending on the clomid dosage ill see which one i'll get. Thanks alot for any help/comments.

 

[genarr3]

That actually works out to 175mgs/week. That's a very low dose, so low I'm not even sure it's worth shutting down your natural production. Make it 100mgs/EOD and then you'll have a cycle.

 

[Quiet Storm]

im getting extra amps so i can bump up the dose if i need to, a major reason why i chose prop is because its fast acting so i can tweak it easily. i want to ease into it mainly to see the reaction of my mood. 50 mg EOD comes out to 200mg every 8 days so its not that bad since prop has a half life of about 3 days.

 

[duff_rose]

ill be using 25gauge-1inch needles

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25 Gague? Wow, I've never tried, but I thought that would be too small for the oil to get through. I used to use a 23 gague and that took forever. I would just hate to wait a half hour to get 1cc in, but good luck!

 

[Quiet Storm]

25 gauge is that small? im goin by what it said on spotinjections.com ;
"22 or 23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is ideal for injections into the glutes.
25 Gauge, 1.0 inch is ideal for injections into the quads and can be used for all spot injections.
25 Gauge, 5/8 inch is often used for tricep/bicep/delts"

im mainly planning to inject in the glutes, delts, chest, and maybe traps or biceps

 

[duff_rose]

I can't ever remember anyone using a 25 gague for oil based. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying that it will take a long time to inject it if it doesn't get clogged first.

 

[genarr3]

25 guage is no problem, I use them all the time.

 

[Quiet Storm]

o well, ill just use 23 gauge then, not that big a deal
main concern right now is clomid, is 50mg/day fine?

 

[genarr3]

Clomid is used post cycle for natural test recovery. It is a very weak anti-estrogen, there are far better drugs to use during your cycle to combat conversion.

The best would be Arimidex/Liquidex. Second choice would be Nolvadex.

Clomid post cycle is used like this ...
300mgs day 1 ...
100mgs everyday for the next ten days ...
50mgs for the final 10 days.

 

[jc21]

i agree with genarr that 50mg/eod is too low of a dose. 175mg/wk is nothing. i didnt even grow well off 250mg/wk. nolva and clomid are not to be taken during a cycle unless needed, that is what liquidex is for. i do fine off this for clomid:

week 1 100mg/day
week 2 50mg/day
week 3 50mg/day

these weeks are at the end of the cycle.