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leatherface

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Ah, so i just finished up my first cycle. I did 10 weeks of Test E, 250mg on Monday and 250mg on Thursday. I gained 17lbs(though I lost about 4lbs right before starting), and thankfully minimal bodyfat. My strength increase was rougly 10-15% all around, which is absolutely incredible for me considering I have been training for around 10 years now and I am lucky to see 5% increase on any given lift in a years time. Hopefully I will maintain most of the strength. I plan on cutting down about 7lbs here in a few weeks as well.

Unfortately, my training and eating habits were not top notch when I did this cycle. I typically train 4 days a week, but due to some injuries, traveling, and some personal matters I could do nothing about, I seemed to train 4 days on week 1, then only 2 on week 2 and so on. As for eating..i would eat great for a week, then go into a few days where I would eat about half the calories I should and such (including this whole last week). My sleeping patterns haven't been the best either.

Given all of that, I am very impressed at the gains I still made, and can't imagine what I could have done had I been able to follow my training and dieting as I wanted to. I'm sure next time I will have better circumstances and will be able to follow it.

Anyhow, now I am on week 10/11 and am starting 3 weeks of only 1mg of Arimidex EOD. Starting week 13, my PCT will look like this
>week13 100mg clomid /day 10mg nolva/day
>week14 50mg clomid /day 10mg nolva/day
>week15 50mg clomid /day 10mg nolva/day

A few people suggested starting the nolva up now, but as of right now I am just going to wait.

I wanted to say thanks for all of the help with building this cycle, and all of the comments, opinions, and advice I was given. :)
 
Ok dude, just finished right?

DONT WORRY ABOUT CUTTING THAT WEIGHT OFF. For the next 6 weeks your goal should be to get stronger/bigger while everything returns to normal.

Run HCG after last injection for 14 Days. (@ 500i.u/day)
Start Nolva or Clomid Day 10-14.
(OR YOU CAN TRY OUT DERMACRINE, I USED IT IN MY PCT INSTEAD OF NOLVA/CLOMID) - as of right now i feel great and hopefully my saliva tests proove it.

Also pick up some creatine, as it helps with protein syntheses.
 
mm107 said:
Ok dude, just finished right?

DONT WORRY ABOUT CUTTING THAT WEIGHT OFF. For the next 6 weeks your goal should be to get stronger/bigger while everything returns to normal.

Run HCG after last injection for 14 Days. (@ 500i.u/day)
Start Nolva or Clomid Day 10-14.
(OR YOU CAN TRY OUT DERMACRINE, I USED IT IN MY PCT INSTEAD OF NOLVA/CLOMID) - as of right now i feel great and hopefully my saliva tests proove it.

Also pick up some creatine, as it helps with protein syntheses.

Ok I agree about the cutting of the weight, I think I detailed that poorly. I'm not going to try to cut anything for about a month atleast, though I am adding some more cardio, I will try to increase my calories to compensate.

I have no HCG on hand, simply t he nolva/clomid I had previously, I will start to run these both on about day 17 or so.
As for the creatine, I actually do have alot, but never really use it. Do you suggest using it throughout the whole cycle, or just the PCT or what bro?

Thanks!

Edit: The only reason I didn't pick up any HCG was b/c i figured 500mg/week to be a pretty low dosage, and at the time was having difficulty finding some good HCG anyhow.
 
Do you guys think the PCT dosages look fine regarding my 500mg Test E/week? I wasn't sure if i wanted to stick with just 50mg clomid/10mg nolva ED for 3 weeks, or do the 100mg clomid for the first week. hmmmm
 
leatherface said:
Ok I agree about the cutting of the weight, I think I detailed that poorly. I'm not going to try to cut anything for about a month atleast, though I am adding some more cardio, I will try to increase my calories to compensate.

I have no HCG on hand, simply t he nolva/clomid I had previously, I will start to run these both on about day 17 or so.
As for the creatine, I actually do have alot, but never really use it. Do you suggest using it throughout the whole cycle, or just the PCT or what bro?

Thanks!

Edit: The only reason I didn't pick up any HCG was b/c i figured 500mg/week to be a pretty low dosage, and at the time was having difficulty finding some good HCG anyhow.


I'm running creatine in PCT only just to help with things....

I ran a test e @ 500mg/week for 8 weeks and still used HCG for 2 weeks. I was gonna use clomid @ 50mg/day with 10mg nolva but used Dermacrine instead.
 
ive been hearing alot lately there is no reason to frontload the clomid, 50mg ED would be fine
 
You can just use 50mg/day of clomid like jmead said. Do that for 3 weeks with your Nolva. I recommend AIFM instead of nolva but since you already have it, use the nolva.
You should also try SesaPure/Glucorell for the next month. You don't have to have the best diet and you'll still cut the fat you want to lose. Add RED Blast to train with and you should hold on to most your gains doing all that.
 
Ulter said:
You can just use 50mg/day of clomid like jmead said. Do that for 3 weeks with your Nolva. I recommend AIFM instead of nolva but since you already have it, use the nolva.
You should also try SesaPure/Glucorell for the next month. You don't have to have the best diet and you'll still cut the fat you want to lose. Add RED Blast to train with and you should hold on to most your gains doing all that.

I'm going to wait awhile before i run my next cycle (which I think I'm just going to try the same dosage of Test E again), but when I do I will try to AIFM perhaps.

As for the sesapure, when would you recommend taking that, at any specific time during the PCT/after? I was thinking about purchasing some of that stuff so, perhaps I will after you reply :)

Thanks for the constant help man!

Oh ya, hit a new squat PR today lol! :) not too exciting, but considering I just sprained my MCL 3 weeks ago, and haven't even hit legs since...its pretty nice.
 
leatherface said:
Ok I agree about the cutting of the weight, I think I detailed that poorly. I'm not going to try to cut anything for about a month atleast, though I am adding some more cardio, I will try to increase my calories to compensate.

I have no HCG on hand, simply t he nolva/clomid I had previously, I will start to run these both on about day 17 or so.
As for the creatine, I actually do have alot, but never really use it. Do you suggest using it throughout the whole cycle, or just the PCT or what bro?

Thanks!

Edit: The only reason I didn't pick up any HCG was b/c i figured 500mg/week to be a pretty low dosage, and at the time was having difficulty finding some good HCG anyhow.
DERMACRINE, also promotes weight lose it all depends on were you apply it check out there wep page bro for more info they have a state of the art site that shows what the DERMACRINE dose on each part of the body you apply it to.if any thing just look at the site its bad ass..................
http://www.primordialperformance.com/
 
Ulter said:
Congrats on the PR Bro!

You should start a SesaPure/Glucorell course as soon as you can.

Ordered today...So I assume taking this with the nolva/clomid is no big deal? I'll probably end up taking this a few days before I start that PCT.
 
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