Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

First cycle on Var!

S

sixxxshoooter

New member
I will be starting my first cycle of anavar. Being a novice I am curious to know what kind of things i need to do to prepare for it. The dosage will be low. I already eat like a mad man and workout twice a day. Just curious as to what else I would need before and during if need be. I have read different things but I would like to here from those who have experience. Thanks.
 
I will be starting at 20mgs for the first week to get use to eat and then go from there. Depending on how I take it, I will up it. I am an track athlete that has a 2 part workout. One is a track workout and the other is a weightroom workout. I am using it to help with sprint(200 meters and under) and to put on some good quality muscle.
 
OK. At what dosage should you doa PCT? I was thinking about picking up some Milk Thistle, but as far as Clomid or Nov. I am not sure. It really depends on whethere or not I will need it. I was thinking of staying around 25mgs.
 
i would run a small dose of clomid. u shouldnt need hcg if u stick to a small dose.

u could probably recover off of 25mg ed for 3 weeks of clomid.
 
Is a PCT really necessary. Or is it dependent on the dosage. I would prefer not to but if its going to shut me down then I will neeed it. I hear you can do anywhere from 15 to 25mg with no PCT. I will likely invest in it though. Just curious.
 
sixxxshoooter said:
Is a PCT really necessary. Or is it dependent on the dosage. I would prefer not to but if its going to shut me down then I will neeed it. I hear you can do anywhere from 15 to 25mg with no PCT. I will likely invest in it though. Just curious.
Click to expand...

some will argue no for var but exogenous forms of aas will shut your natural production down. your body kinda works like a thermostat. if it reads u have too much test or the right level it will stop releasing. u could recover naturally but you will risk losing any gains u make. u do pct to get yourself recovered so your natural levels of test get back up and help you sustain your gains.

do some more research and get some more opinions. i encourage it. best way to make an informed decision. if available get lots of published medical research. var is heavily researched due to aids wasting so you should find some good stuff out there on your own.

it is very possible u could get away with no pct by why risk losing your gains and wasting your money on gear. var aint cheap.
 
BIGBUCK$ said:
wats the longest you can run var @ 50mg/day?
Click to expand...

i would say 6 weeks is a safe max but i have done 8 weeks without a problem and have seen much longer.

final answer: 6-8weeks imo
 
8and20 said:
i would say 6 weeks is a safe max but i have done 8 weeks without a problem and have seen much longer.

final answer: 6-8weeks imo
Click to expand...





+1 ..............@ 60mg/ED. Lots of liver support too.
 
my cycle of t-bol60mg/var40mg ends today. an experimaental thing that turned out good. i pissed blood once, but other than that.. just kidding, i am fine.

running var at 60mg ed for 6 weeks by itself will get you good results.

i gained 12 lbs, and my bf apears to be slightly lower than when i started. but, just so you know, the better part of the mass was due to the tbol, not the var. i ran var with it because var seems to help sustain gains through pct and beyond. i am planning on gaining during pct as well. var is good shit.

yes, your nuts will shrink. mine did a little.
 
sixxxshoooter said:
I will be starting my first cycle of anavar. Being a novice I am curious to know what kind of things i need to do to prepare for it. The dosage will be low. I already eat like a mad man and workout twice a day. Just curious as to what else I would need before and during if need be. I have read different things but I would like to here from those who have experience. Thanks.
Click to expand...


use some CREATINE,,,eat solid diet,,,train hard.
 
8and20: I see what you mean. I went and looked around. I didnt know what the Clomid was for at first. I guess thats the piece of research I missed. So it basically helps keep your gains. Cool. I appreicate the help. What would you say would be the timeframe to which i would start to see results?
 
sixxxshoooter said:
8and20: I see what you mean. I went and looked around. I didnt know what the Clomid was for at first. I guess thats the piece of research I missed. So it basically helps keep your gains. Cool. I appreicate the help. What would you say would be the timeframe to which i would start to see results?
Click to expand...

You should notice increased strength within a week or so, in the form of more weight and/or increased reps with the same weight. As far as physique results this will obviously depend on how good your diet is. I say you really won't notice until week 3-4. You gains off of a 6 week var only will not be dramatic. If your BF% is relatively low you should also see signs of increased vascularity fairly quick.
 
OK. Cool. I am debating on the second cycle, depending on how the first one goes. So its good to start the Clomid with in a week of coming off? Or should it be ran earlier? Will milk thistle intefere with the cycle at any point?

Xrsist: Are you saying run creatine with anavar?
 
sixxxshoooter said:
OK. Cool. I am debating on the second cycle, depending on how the first one goes. So its good to start the Clomid with in a week of coming off? Or should it be ran earlier? Will milk thistle intefere with the cycle at any point?

Xrsist: Are you saying run creatine with anavar?
Click to expand...

whats the best dossing schedule for safety against results

a longer cycle of less anavar, or a shorter with more.

and what kinda numbers are we discussing- some dudes have said that 60mg for 6-8 weeks is fine.

but would 40 mg for 10 weeks be better/safer

cheers
 
sixxxshoooter said:
OK. Cool. I am debating on the second cycle, depending on how the first one goes. So its good to start the Clomid with in a week of coming off? Or should it be ran earlier? Will milk thistle intefere with the cycle at any point?

Xrsist: Are you saying run creatine with anavar?
Click to expand...

yes
 
OK. Wont that cause some bloating? Or will it still be dependent on the amount of water I am drinking? I have creatine on hand so thats not a problem, but wasnt sure if I could use it during the cycle.
 
sixxxshoooter said:
OK. Wont that cause some bloating? Or will it still be dependent on the amount of water I am drinking? I have creatine on hand so thats not a problem, but wasnt sure if I could use it during the cycle.
Click to expand...

I think it is always a good idea while on cycle. When an abundance of creatine phosphate is stored in the muscle, the muscle will hold more water in its cells and become what is known as “volumized” or “super-hydrated.” The more volumized a muscle is, it will promote the synthesis of protein as well as deter the breakdown of protein. So yes it can cause some bloating but it is worth it imo as I will explain.

It also increases the amount of ATP. Your strength depends on ATP which is the initial fuel for contracting muscles. Var drives ATP into the muscles continually. See the reason for the creatine now?
 
OK. I see now. For the goals I am seeking, that would be a great idea. So just a simple Creatine monohydrate will work fine. I have some Cell Tech here, but that is not just creatine alone. Other stuff in it. Will that work?

Is the Dermacrine Sustain lotion good to use as well? Just a thought that is down the road. Curiosity I guess. Thanks guys.
 
I think u should just get some Creatine all by itself. Take 5g pre workout and 5g post workout and for loading I like to do 20g split into several doses for about 2 weeks.

Muscle Tech products are junk.

I dont know much about Sustain.
 
Yea that is what I was thinking. it never did much for me that is why I still have so much of it. I bought two a while ago and it did nothing so the second one is still hanging around. I will probably pick some up this evening and start that while I am waiting for my stuff to come in the mail.

What is your leg workout and diet like? For my sport, legs like that would be very beneficial.

The Dermacrine Sustain is suppose to increase Test and so on I believe. Not too concerned about it though.
 
safety4lyfe said:
8and20 i gotta ask...why do you only recommend 40mg/ED. I was thinking more in the range between 60-100.
Click to expand...

mostly bc it is a first cycle, personal experience, and research. more is not always better. with var being as mild as it is, compared to alot of other orals, people think they need to and can load up on the stuff. i tried 20mg ed and saw no results and bumped it up to 40mg ed the next time around and saw a big improvement. i think the most i ever used was 80mg ed but I don't really think the gains were all that much better than 40mg. it is ideal for aas use to use as little as possible to get maximal gains. for those on 60-100mg the only thing they probably hurt was their wallet.
 
sixxxshoooter said:
What about those leg workouts 8an20???
Click to expand...

HIT/low volume, 8-12 rep range, free weight squats in various foot positions & stance, leg press for burnouts, leg extensions, hypers or stiff leg deadlifts & standling leg curls.

concentrate and "feeling" the muscle and not moving the weight. i dont use a ton of weight.
 
OK. Thats good stuff. Didnt think about that. Sounds like a killer workout and that you can barely walk when leaving. Let alone the next day. LOL.
 
sixxxshoooter said:
So what is that....3 days a week that you hit the legs????
Click to expand...

if i had time i would go for every 3 days for every bodypart.

every 4th or 5th day (depends on whether i am on cycle or not). i will also punish my legs later that night or the next day if i had a shitty workout such as if i failed to increase in reps or weight.
 
I'm doing 60mg ED with no issues so far. Starting week 3 today. My muscles are hard as nails even though I'm bloated as fuck from the test. So far I really like Anavar.
 
perryscoon said:
I'm doing 60mg ED with no issues so far. Starting week 3 today. My muscles are hard as nails even though I'm bloated as fuck from the test. So far I really like Anavar.
Click to expand...

good to hear bro, var is one of my favourites
 
OK. I got you. Well my legs are going to get killed regardless because of the fact that I runn every day accept Sunday. So I am running from 4pm to 6pm and in the gym from 630pm to 8pm. So the legs are going to get it in. Its just the other parts of the body I have to keep up with the legs. Hopefully I can get me some tree trunks like that. LOL.
 
8and20: What do you think about 15mg of Var and Creatine Mono? I was going to do 20 but I think I will do 15. Will there be a big difference as far as results between 15 and 20?
 
probably not much difference between the 2 but overall u probably won't see major gains/results from it. what made u change to 15mg?
 
Well....Correct me if I am wrong now. I ordered Oxandroplex which claims to be 4 times as strong as the regular anavar. So I figured I would drop back 5g because of that. I wasnt too sure if I should go the full 20. And if I did would I need more then Clomid for the PCT? Right now, I am going to be running that and Creatine mono. Getting ready to start.

Also really quick question. What is the effect on the libido while taking it? I was thinking about runnings some tribulus to help with the drive. Dont want to be lacking if I have an encounter. LOL.
 
sixxxshoooter said:
Well....Correct me if I am wrong now. I ordered Oxandroplex which claims to be 4 times as strong as the regular anavar. So I figured I would drop back 5g because of that. I wasnt too sure if I should go the full 20. And if I did would I need more then Clomid for the PCT? Right now, I am going to be running that and Creatine mono. Getting ready to start.

Also really quick question. What is the effect on the libido while taking it? I was thinking about runnings some tribulus to help with the drive. Dont want to be lacking if I have an encounter. LOL.
Click to expand...

That is just that particular UG's claim. I have seen no evidence to support it. I may believe a statement like that if u were comparing pharm grade var and UG var. The only way u r going to verify this is to take a sample of another UG's var and have the 2 lab tested.

Clomid should be enuf.

Tribulus is crap. I don't recall a huge boost in sex drive but then again it could of been there. I have been used to other bigger cycles using test which has a dramatic effect on the libido. So if it did impact is positively (I certainly didn't notice a drop in drive) it was very subtle.
 
5mg? You will see no results on that dose. Don't expect huge gains from Anavar anyway, just some hardness and a little vascularity.
 
perryscoon said:
5mg? You will see no results on that dose. Don't expect huge gains from Anavar anyway, just some hardness and a little vascularity.
Click to expand...

5mg ED is generally the dose advised to women.
 
Since you said you are running for 2 hours each day just watch out for shin splints. I ran anavar and winnie for my first cycle at 50mg each a day and by the 4th week I had a vicious shin splint in my right leg. I didn't attribute it to the anavar until I read about anavar causing shin splints later.

I don't think it will be a problem for you as you are running a much lower dose, but it is something to keep in mind.

Also 8and20 is right. I doubt there is any way that their oxandrolone is any stronger than any other oxandrolone mg for mg. I would stick with 20mg ED because 15mg is a very low dose.
 
if you are set on var only first cycle you are wasting any less than 40mg ED imo, 50-60mg is nice
 
OK. Cool. I will stick with the 20. Thought there was a big difference. So I wouldnt need to run something like trib until I come off of it. And in that case use clomid?
 
sixxxshoooter said:
OK. Cool. I will stick with the 20. Thought there was a big difference. So I wouldnt need to run something like trib until I come off of it. And in that case use clomid?
Click to expand...

i wouldnt use tribulus period. Clmoid for pct.
 
8and20 said:
i wouldnt use tribulus period. Clmoid for PCT - post cycle therapy - .
Click to expand...

Agree on the trib...useless. If anything, I would use low dose nolva instead of clomid. Honestly @ 20 mg, you should not need any pct. just my .02.
 
big greg 82 said:
75mg ed!
Click to expand...
:rolleyes: u can do fine with 30mg a day esp on ur first run 75 is fuggin waste and overkill oh and get some LIV-52 to protect ur liver although its not halotestin u should still watch out
 
Great...I asked because I start my cycle monday and I have an encouter coming up that Friday in Texas, when I visit. So I want to be on top of my game....well atleast on top. LOL.
 
Ok. First day was today. Ate pretty good and hit the track pretty good. Legs got a little sore and tingly during plyos but after that it mellowed out. Then about 2 hours later I hit the Gym. Now I dont know if it was me...But I was able to lift a little longer. My legs wouldnt get tired for some reason. I usually do 3 sets and I am done. I was able to do five. Now I am not saying this is a wonder drug and it was a good chance I just had a good day. Not sure. But felt a tad stronger but that was probably mental...But the extra sets were not. What do you guys thing? 8and20: Jump in at any time?
 
sixxxshoooter said:
Ok. First day was today. Ate pretty good and hit the track pretty good. Legs got a little sore and tingly during plyos but after that it mellowed out. Then about 2 hours later I hit the Gym. Now I dont know if it was me...But I was able to lift a little longer. My legs wouldnt get tired for some reason. I usually do 3 sets and I am done. I was able to do five. Now I am not saying this is a wonder drug and it was a good chance I just had a good day. Not sure. But felt a tad stronger but that was probably mental...But the extra sets were not. What do you guys thing? 8and20: Jump in at any time?
Click to expand...

probably a little bit of placebo and a little bit of var
 
OK. Cool. Like I said, I am not jumping out there and say it was working 100% the first day. But I did feel the urge to just keep going. You know how when you get a good leg workout and you are kinda sore when you leave, well I didnt get that. I wanted to work out more but didnt want to overdo it on the first day. Was able to increase weights alot faster as well. Good feeling so far. I will let you know how today goes. Thanks.
 
what can you take to protect your cholesterol levels????? flax oil and omega-3 fish oil...something else???
 
cop said:
what can you take to protect your cholesterol levels????? flax oil and omega-3 fish oil...something else???
Click to expand...

var has actually been shown to lower total cholesterol. but unfortunately at a price, it lowers the good and raises the bad. fish oils and nuts can lower your LDL. u will wanna watch your sat & trans fat intake as well.

i have heard of some taking lipitor to help but i wouldnt recommend it. just keep an eye on it, watch your diet, and if it starts getting out of control stop taking the var.
 
Well Day 3.....Very sore but in a good way. Day 2 - work was hard and a lot of PLyos, abs and drills, then weight room with chest and back. Felt really strong with the plyos and anyone who knows anything about plyos knows that they are tough. Reall solid workout and felt good afterwards. Good dinner. I do also notice that I sleep really deep. Great sleep if I may say so. Dont know what thats about. I will keep you guys/gals updated.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
Since you said you are running for 2 hours each day just watch out for shin splints. I ran anavar and winnie for my first cycle at 50mg each a day and by the 4th week I had a vicious shin splint in my right leg. I didn't attribute it to the anavar until I read about anavar causing shin splints later.
Click to expand...

WTF...Anavar causes shin splints???
 
sixxxshoooter said:
Well....Correct me if I am wrong now. I ordered Oxandroplex which claims to be 4 times as strong as the regular anavar. So I figured I would drop back 5g because of that. I wasnt too sure if I should go the full 20. And if I did would I need more then Clomid for the PCT - post cycle therapy - ? Right now, I am going to be running that and Creatine mono. Getting ready to start.

Also really quick question. What is the effect on the libido while taking it? I was thinking about runnings some tribulus to help with the drive. Dont want to be lacking if I have an encounter. LOL.
Click to expand...
The claim about being 4 times stronger I believe is based on the dosage per tablet. I think I read on anaother board the orig. Prescirtion var came in 2.5 mg doses. Oxandrolone from Axio is a 10 mg tablet, thus 4 times as strong as the 2.5 tabs. Kind of a play on words, but not saying the oxadrolone ingredient is stronger than another oxandrolone, just the tablet contains more. I may be wrong however. Anyway I'm on it and really like it, so does my wife who is taking .5 mg/day also
 
OK. That makes since now that I think about it. Thanks man. How long have you been on it? When did you start to see results? I am feeling really good and strong with it. Nothing major yet. Is it your first cycle with anavar?
 
Day 6........Felt good, seeing BF drop a tad. Had a great Squat work out. Went from 225 3 sets of 10 to 325 3 sets of 10. Still wasnt tired. Hitting it hard. Hadnt gotten a chance to introduce creatine yet. That will be monday.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

C
going to try tren for first time, need tips
Replies
11
Views
755
ceo
ceo
A
2nd ever cycle need help
Replies
17
Views
1K
25homes
25homes
K
using anavar as a first timer?
Replies
11
Views
1K
Ulter
Ulter
R
2nd steroid cycle, want to liven things up
Replies
13
Views
2K
Arabian
Arabian
R
how to use oral anavar for 12 weeks
Replies
10
Views
739
SteveMobsterG
SteveMobsterG
Top Bottom