first cycle.(NEW Member)

[ke 20]

Looking to run my first cycle. I've lurked around the board for a
while, have done tons of reading on the subject.

Stats: 212 lbs, 5'11", 13% bf guess.

Diet is very clean, getting high amounts of protien, eating 6 meals
a day in small portions.

Cycle proposal
weeks 1-2 m-1-t weeks 4-6 weeks 8-10 weeks 12-14 m1-t at 5mg ED

weeks 2-4 off m-1-t weeks 6-8 weeks 10-12

weeks 1-15 EQ 500mg every week

I understand M-1-T to very toxic and effective in the body. EQ is a
fairly safe compound that I don't expect to see sides from and
understand I have to run over 10-12 weeks to be effective.

Like I've stated I've trained naturally for a few years, and have
made most my gains to the point I reached my genetic potential. I'm
not big boned but lean, and happen to always top out on the scales
at about 210-220 my goal is to see and maintain a solid 235-240.

I'm going with the above cycle because I want to run something safe
to see if I'm prone to gyno.

I do have other things on hand feel free to suggest a good beginner
safe cycle or change compounds.


Also thanks for the great boards guys I hope to make this my new
home away from home!!

 

[BrandonXJ]

I don't like PH's.. just my .02.. the 500 EQ should be good alone for your first cycle.. If you did want to take something else, I would suggest maybe dbol or something for the first 4-5 weeks along side the EQ to kick start it.. as always make sure you have novla/liquidex/etc on hand.. and if you do decide to use the M1T, make sure you're taking something for your liver. Where's your PCT?

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

I agree with Brandon, why so much for your 1st cycle? And also like Brandon mentioned.....PCT. Any reasearch at all will tell you that its gonna be an expensive 12 weeks just to look god for......12 weeks.

 

[c17]

5 mg of m1t wont do nothin. just take the 20mg ed in 2 dosages. just stay on for 4 weeks its better that way

 

[Mythicalbeing]

I agree with Brandon, why so much for your 1st cycle? And also like Brandon mentioned.....PCT. Any reasearch at all will tell you that its gonna be an expensive 12 weeks just to look god for......12 weeks.

Expensive? I think not. Depends on your source bro. I agree low dose EQ is spendy but there are a lot of UNDERGROUND eq producers hitting eq at 300mg/ml.

So much? If you look into EQ bro you'll notice most people start at 200-400mg, 500mg isn't out of the ball park.

PCT Suggestion would be 2-4 weeks after last shot...hit hcg 500 ius every third day for 1-2 weeks, and to be on the safe side...run nolvadex at 20mg ED for a week cut it down to 10mg for the week after and take it from there.

BUT you probly won't have to worry too much as EQ has a tendency to be a safe compound for first time users.

Here is some reads on EQ

"Negative Side Effects

Higher dosages can cause virilization symptoms such as deep voice, increased production of the sebaccous gland and acne, increased libido and in some cases increased hair growth on the face and legs. Men have few problems with Equipoise. Since water and salt retentions are low, the blood pressure usually does not increase. Acne, gynecomastia, and increased aggressiveness occur only in rare instances. The feared "steroid fever," which can occur when using veterinary steroids, is rare"



"Average dosages of Equipoise are 200-400 mg per week. Injections are usually taken every other day" I say 2x a week is a good rule.

m1t looks for posts by want2bbeast....he's the master and has first hand experience on what it does to ya as he had blood tests done, one of the few bros who has.
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[WolfPack Charlie]

WHOA, easy pilgrim. Too much referred to a 1st cycle consisting of AAS and other compounds. Expensive referred to spending money on a cycle with no PCT only to have it disappear because of no PCT. Never mentioned too high dose for EQ. 500mg EW is sufficient.

 

[SuperDawgy]

Why go the PH route if you are going to stack it with the real deal? M1T is almost as expensive as real test and i've seen nothing to suggest that it is remotely as effective. So why bother unless you can't get it and if thats the case and seeing that this is a first cycle why not just run the EQ by itself? Oh yeah, plan out your PCT. Your stats look ok. 300mg EQ for 10 weeks should give you a favorable response.

 

[sonofkong]

I don't like PH's.. just my .02.. the 500 EQ should be good alone for your first cycle.. If you did want to take something else, I would suggest maybe dbol or something for the first 4-5 weeks along side the EQ to kick start it.. as always make sure you have novla/liquidex/etc on hand.. and if you do decide to use the M1T, make sure you're taking something for your liver. Where's your PCT?

i disagree... dbol has a pronounced ana?andro effect but when i did bol alone i had the worst post and depression followed by estro rel sides. i would say its good for a kick start but short of that i would go w/ something more anabolic for a first timer! not spamming here just giving my experience w/ d-bol. then again look at arnie. WTF!!!!

 

[Mythicalbeing]

It's all good wolfpack...my stating my opinion. I'm curious to see what he does have planned for PCT.

SuperDawgy...one question, do you believe test should be the base of any cycle?
While most compounds are dirivatives of test, I've always been a believer to base a cycle on test...BUT I have read about EQ only cycles precontest. More info?

KE20 didn't mean to hijack the thread, I'll leave it alone bro.

 

[Muscle Mafia]

I'd drop the PH's and run some test En at 250-500 mg/wk. for a first time cycle. If your worried about gyno, try Test Prop so you can stop if problems occur and not have to wait for the long esters to clear. EQ is a mild steroid, save it to stack with your second cycle!!

 

[SuperDawgy]

SuperDawgy...one question, do you believe test should be the base of any cycle?
While most compounds are dirivatives of test, I've always been a believer to base a cycle on test...BUT I have read about EQ only cycles precontest. More info?

Not really. I prefer to run my mass cycles with a test base, but i have done very well with just Deca and Var in the past. I just like keeping things simple and test with one other compound works well for me. Hope that answers your question bro.

EQ solo runs always cut me up, but i add some clen and winny for getting peeled.

 

[Mythicalbeing]

Not really. I prefer to run my mass cycles with a test base, but i have done very well with just Deca and Var in the past. I just like keeping things simple and test with one other compound works well for me. Hope that answers your question bro.

EQ solo runs always cut me up, but i add some clen and winny for getting peeled.

Getting peeled nice way to refer to it bro...

 

[sonofkong]

No Doubt!

 

[longhorn814]

Bro, Im five weeks into my first cycle of Test E 500mg/wk and Eq 400 mg/wk with absolutely no sides so far. I would suggest running test w/ the eq b/c a lot of people will say Eq alone will shut you down somewhat plus you'll get good gains. I personally like my liver so will stay away from orals, especially M1T which is poison in a bottle

 

[LVTitan]

I'd drop the PH's and run some test En at 250-500 mg/wk. for a first time cycle. If your worried about gyno, try Test Prop so you can stop if problems occur and not have to wait for the long esters to clear. EQ is a mild steroid, save it to stack with your second cycle!!

what he said.

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

You need to get familiar with HCG and clomid for PCT. Also Arimidex throughout won't hurt.