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First Cycle need opinions

mountainman1981

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Hello gents, I wanted to see if I can gain some insight here into how my first cycle is looking. I haven't started it yet as I just received the meds but I wanted to make sure that everything is in order before I do.

My stats: 28 years old 5'11" 190, probably less than 10% BF. No previous steroid use, I've trained extremely hard while in the military for the last six years, mostly endurance stuff, long runs, long ruck marches, long ocean swims combined with crossfit type workouts and such. I want to do a cycle to help come back from injuries and the serious abuse my body has taken while in the military. I feel like I'm forty with aches and pains all over after a run or workout.

I received my meds in the mail today obtained through a clinic. They were ridiculously expensive but I had to keep it legal due to the nature of my job.
I received: two vials of test cypionate 200, 30 capsules of 21 mg tamoxifen, 25 caps of 51mg clomiphine and 10,000 units of HCG.

I plan on running the test cypionate injecting 400mg once a week for 10 weeks and then starting PCT. I also plan on doing the on cycle HCG plan that is mentioned in the PCT sticky starting seven days after the first test injection.

I will say that despite reading the above PCT thread I'm a little unclear as to how to incorporate the tamoxifen and the clomiphine to effectively come off the test. If anyone could clarify this I would appreciate it.

Also, if anyone has any suggestions regarding any aspect of this I would appreciate it. I feel that my diet and training regimen is solid but I wanted to make sure that I have this totally squared away before I begin. Thanks for your help.
 
1 week after last injection:
Clomiphine--100mg/day for 2 weeks
Tamoxifin--10mg/day for 6 weeks
 
UPDATE

Well I thought I would post an update on here. I'm on my last week of test cypionate. I wound up running 300mg a week instead of 400mg because it was my first cycle.It took some discipline not to pull the plunger back a bit further and go for four or five hundred but I'm happy with the way things turned out. I have to say, I was really impressed with the whole thing. I got a whole lot stronger, putting about 50 more pounds on the bench and other lifts. I probably gained about 15 solid pounds although I wasn't trying to gain a whole lot in the first place so my diet remained much the same as before the cycle. The biggest bonus I think was just feeling great all of the time. I had a ton of energy and didn't feel the fatigue I'd been experiencing throughout the day for quite some time. I got sick once and thought it was test flu but it turned out to be just a virus. I was a bit disappointed to not feel much in terms of increased libido but whatever. Fortunately, I didn't experience any negative sides other than a small amount of acne on my back. I had a-dex on hand but never used it. I did the on-cycle HCG plan injecting 250ius every fourth day and didn't notice any testicular shrinkage.

Now for PCT. I'm wondering what you guys think of this, I have clomid and nolva but I'm thinking of just using the testosterone recovery stack and forged post cycle which I have on hand. What do you guys think? I've heard some guys are going to using just these products rather than SERMs. What should I do in your opinion?
 
Best pct in my opinion and experience:

Arimidex .25mg ED last week of cycle and 2 week post
Nolvadex at 20mg ED 1 week after last shot for 5 weeks
Igf- 1 at 40mcg post workout for 4 weeks

The arimidex will lower your estrogen so that when you drop the test you T/E ratio stays reasonable and because both hormones are very low your body will be more encouraged to produce testosterone. The testosterone your body does produce won't get converted to Estrogen because of the Adex and your Test levels will rise quickly. The nolvadex will stimulate Test production and will improve cholesterol levels caused by low estrogen. Clomid has too many sides and is not worth it during PCT. The igf1 will make you keep all the gains but is not completely necessary if you don't want to do it.
 
UPDATE

Thought I would post one more update since I just finished the PCT. For PCT I wound up using the TRS and Forged Post cycle and one bottle of Unleashed rather than using any SERMs. I have to say, it worked great. In terms of how I felt, I felt just as good as I did while on cycle and never felt anything people who have "crashed" mentioned. The only noticeable difference was in the gym where I noticed a drop in strength and endurance which really wasn't all that bad. The drop in strength was minimal but the drop in endurance was more pronounced. However, that's pretty much what was to be expected. I'm definitely happy to have gone this route in terms of PCT as I experienced no negative sides except an increase in the amount of hair I'm shedding. Overall, I enjoyed doing the cycle and would probably plan on doing another except that it's just so damn expensive to do it right. I plan on sticking to just the OTC stuff next time around.

Which leads me to a question. I just finished PCT so how long would you guys wait to jump on four weeks of dermacrine? I'm not in too much of a hurry but I've got some stuff coming up that would probably really benefit from the Dermacrine. What's your opinion on this matter?
 
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