First Cycle... Need good advice!!!

[njmuscleguy]

I don't see any reason not to run a 12 weeker for a first cycle if he does proper post cycle therapy....and also you don't know if he's prone to being shut down easily or not,so you can't honestly say that he won't need H C G............that's precisely why I said

Speaking from personal experience, and I know many others', gains tend to stagnate after the 8-10 week mark.... except when E Q is in the mix, but that's a different animal... so to me, 8-10 weeks is a good amount of time to reap the most benefits. As for H C G, you're right.... he may need it... or he may not....

 

[CremasterBlaster]

I just gotta weigh in with my .02 (not to be a kiss ass......but you guys have always been here, and I like giving credit where its due)

BigC, Hyp1, Xrsist, and NJ are probably the most knowledgeable bros on the board, and what they say bears repeating over and over again

Start small, keep it simple.......

 

[BigCracker]

What happened to the usual "Don't be a pussy man!, pin up or don't pin at all" for all we know he has been shooting IGF intramuscularly for the last 6 yrs and besides I believe his issue was about sideffects and not improper sanitation.

If someone gets an abcess as a result of improper sanitation or minimal injection experience I would consider that a side effect. In fact, it's much more serious than hair loss or zits. I'd even consider an abcess a more immediate threat to one's well being than the guy that has blood filled cysts in his liver from using A-50. A liver can regenerate itself. An abcess can fight off antibiotics and become Staph-which has the potential to kill you within days if not properly treated.

In short, if it's possible to keep test levels stable in an 8 wk cycle with 8 weekly injections, why should a newb use a faster acting compound that requires 8 weeks of 2 weekly injections???

 

[theplastickid]

Thanks Guys!!!
Few more questions...
If I run a test only cycle for lets say 8 weeks what kind of PCT - post cycle therapy - would I do??? PLEASE give details. I have read so many different things. I like to keep things simple and easy to control.
Also what kind of different testosterones would be good for a first cycle and why?
THANKS THANKS THANKS
BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya teabag the floor!

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.aspx

Here is some great info on pct.

 

[rage_roid]

8-10 week cycles ar to me the best option, but I don't like monocycles...

 

[rage_roid]

Not my personal opinion to be for real, byt what ever happened soft primo + winny cycle???

 

[jhale226]

BigCracker, gotta say I'm impressed with the kind, gentle advice you're giving here.... I was ready for a thrashing! Must be getting soft in your old(er) age? Excellent advice though.... wouldn't have said anything different.

Also, for those recommending 12-week cycles for a first-timer....don't. No need for a 12-week cycle.... an 8-week cycle will do nicely at a low to moderate dosage of test.... 10 weeks maximum. Especially for this guy who is a self-proclaimed easy gainer. Keep the cycle short, simple, and light.... P C T and recovery will be a breeze. He won't need H C G, he may or may not need an A I (but always good to have on hand)... light dosage of either clomid or Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - if he so chooses for P C T - or the more natural route, Derma Sustain.

you said its always good to have A I on hand...what is that and what does it do?

 

[njmuscleguy]

you said its always good to have A I on hand...what is that and what does it do?

A I = aromatase inhibitor

to keep estrogen in check (prevent gyno, reduce bloat, etc)

 

[xrsist]

A I = aromatase inhibitor

to keep estrogen in check (prevent gynecomastia, reduce bloat, etc)

its disturbing you have to spell it out for some..

 

[MoFoBerto]

its disturbing you have to spell it out for some..

tru...even I know what that is. lol