First Cycle- Is This Alot???

[Texas Ranger]

Hey guys, a mod from another board advised this for my First cycle- Test Enanthate@750mgs for 8 weeks, Deca@400mgs for 8 weeks, and Dbol@40-35mgs a day for the first 4 weeks. I think it's OVERKILL!!! My goal is to gain 25-30lbs during the cycle and maintain 15-20lbs post cycle. I'm 27 years old, 6'4" 245lbs and 8-9% bodyfat. What do you think? Is this TOO much? If so, what would you suggest?

 

[CrouchingTigerLSU]

WOW! All that o your first Bat! Well, not to say it's impossible, or far-fetched....but I, personally would tone it down a bit. Your body will react well with less dosing.

Maybe you could use this to help formualte a cycle that's right for you:

week 1-4
-D-bol - 20-40mg/day
-Enth - 200-600mg/week
-Deca - 200-300mg/week

week 4-8
-Enth - 200-600mg/week
-Deca - 200-300mg/week

Followed by Clomid....I didn't get too deep with details, but that can be a little less harsh for a newbie. Again I an not saying that the Mods suggestion is wrong.

Here is some food for thought...not to confuse you...just too help you out.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92212

Good Luck!

 

[OMEGA]

yes it is.

i am new like you.

the first cycle completed 6-7 month ago

consisted of primo at 200=300 mgs a week for 10 weeks.


bammo!!!!!12 pounds permament.


second cylce.........primo 100 mgs every 5 days only.
and 15 mgs of dbol..........all for 8 weeks.


it sucks the cycle has to be stpped half way through, but am up another 11, but I think realistically 7-8 solid pounds.


strat small to assess tolerance, then go from there.

training and nutrition first, then som drugs.


good luck, and feel free to pm me.


another guy you should do a search under is GW9DTA4

this guy is quite helpfull

 

[long Ball]

He did my first cycle too. He has a good perspective on how these compounds are used. If I we're you i'd go with lesser doseges for your first cycle. But if you need 30 lbs you got've no choice.

 

[Mike P.T.]

u definately do not need that much for your first cycle to get good gains. i agree with Omega in the sense that u should start of lighter to assess tolerance but i do not agree with the primobolan dose because not everyone may respond to this. it is a mild and safe drug i agree and produces permanent gains but may not give you the results you desire. i feel for your first cycle u may want to take more advantage of your fresh receptors. taking 500mg test a week maybe with a little antiestrogens like arimidex added during the cycle and some clomid after will surely enable someone to gain even if they had the poorest genetics. make sure you are eating, training, and getting enough rest or all the juice in world couldnt really help you. never overlook those factors.

 

[OMEGA]

yea if you want 30 pounds.

sustanon woul probably be a better bet.

for 15.........dbol and primo would suffice.

but 30........no.

goodluck

testosterone cypionate, and deca would be good too

 

[Mike80]

those numbers are a tad high, you can gain a ton of weight at far lower doses.

 

[genarr3]

Yes, that's too much.

 

[Hbone]

Hell yes its alot... Has it been done sure. You dont need those amounts to get qaulity gains for your first go. Spend the money on qaulity nutrition and training, dont waste it on excessive use.

 

[IronFist]

My first cycle was
500mg test/week
200mg Deca/week
25mg. dbolevd/ 5weeks

This cycle was perfect for me. I was 5'10" 205lbs. The amount you need all depends on how your body reacts. Some people grow on a little, some people need higher doses to grow. You are a big mofo so that might be the reason for that mod recommending higher doses. I know what works for me and would use your cycle for my first withoput a problem if I were you. On the other hand I'm not going to recommend that you start that high. You can always run a more mild cycle, see what your results are and bump the doses up on your next cycle if need be.