First Cycle Idea's?

[BigMarc1]

What's up Bro's Ive been reading in here for a while and I have learned a lot of new info. I am 20 1/2 5'10" 212lbs. and around 15%BF right now. My goals are to get Strong as hell and to lose some bodyfat. I Like my wieght, wouldn't mind being around 220 though. I want to start with a low/moderate dose cycle. I can get almost anything through some legit hook-ups. I also work at GNC so supplements are not a problem either.

I am going down south in about 12 days and want to bring some gear home with me. I know T200 is cheap down there as well as Norandren200, Sust250, DBol(Revifort-B).

My friend has the Clomid, Nolva.

I am thinking about 8 Weeks.

300mg Test Enathate/week-8 weeks
Clomid weeks 11-13.
Clen During Clomid

I want to add something for hardening and to also be on something during the three weeks between test and clomid.

Suggestions, Proviron, Halo's, Winstrol???? I can get it all except probably Anavar and Primo.

Don't want to do any Deca because of the testing times. <<Military>>

Any help will be apreciated bro's.

Also I know a lot of guys say to do at least 400mg test, but I have heard many get good results with less.

Goals: 10-20lbs lean hard mass
5%BodyFat Drop
Big Strength increase(mostly keepable)

Diet Goals: 4,000 plus Kcal/day
300-400g protien/day
? on carbs for my goals.

 

[The Terminator]

Using 500 mg of test per week will always be what I recommend for first timers. It was mine and was quite effective. You might want to add 400 mg. of EQ per week to your 300 mg. of test (if you are totally set on your test amount)

 

[BigMarc1]

I'm not completely set on the amount, but the EQ may cause problems because of the long detection time for me.

Also I thought about doing

Sus250 every 4-5 days plus other additives. Just looking for some good advice right now.

Thanks alot, what kind of gains did you get first cycle?

How much would 5 weeks of Anavar(40mg/day) cost? In Mexico?

Also an old (ripped) man told me he used to use only 10mg of Dbol a day for 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off and he would get good solid gains and keep them as well. He said he did 2-3 cycles a year for a few years and always kept most of his gains.

I know no-one on here ever says to do Dbol alone or even such low doses, but if it worked in the past why wouldn't it now?
Oh and he said he would add 5mg extra on certain Heavy intense days in the gym. Any ideas?

 

[The Terminator]

You could do the sust. by taking a shot every 4 days and maybe using Dbol for the first 4 weeks for a "kickstart" at 30 mg. day. My first cycle (sustanon 500 mg/week) I put on 18 lbs. and kept all of it. As for the Anavar I believe it was $120 a bottle for TTokkyo 100 tabs, but I have not been there since December. The Dbol was only like $53 for 100 tabs

 

[BigMarc1]

Thanks man, I just don't want a lot of Bloat from the cycle. Heard Arimidex is the best for that problem.

18 pounds would be awesome, but I'm looking for a little less unless that is 18 lb muscle with 10lbs fat loss.

 

[Gymbob]

Ive just finished this cycle,

dbol 1-5 25mg\d
test enanthate 1-8 500mg\wk
EQ 400mg\wk 1-10
dbol 10-13 25mg\d (tapered down to 5 then started clomid day after)

I started at 183lbs and im now 218lbs, dont know how much i'll keep yet because i only just started clomid.

At the start the scale gains came quick (water) then A LOT slower when i finished the dbol, but i was probably loosing water and gaining tissue.

Hope this helps.

 

[BigMarc1]

What about this:

400mg test/week 1-8
300mg EQ/week 1-8
Proviron 50mg ED week9-11
Clomid week 11-13

Anti-E's During cycle.

What could I use besides the Proviron, just it's easy o get and I don't mind rock hard erections?

I can get Halo's(first cycle?) Winny, Dbol ect.

I also thought about a fast acting one for the first 3 weeks as well to get a jump start, but Dbol is to dramatic gains for me.

I gues Sus250 E4Days would hit 2 birds with one stone.

 

[Willyumyum]

What about this:

400mg test/week 1-8
300mg EQ/week 1-8
Proviron 50mg ED week9-11
Clomid week 11-13

Anti-E's During cycle.

What could I use besides the Proviron, just it's easy o get and I don't mind rock hard erections?

I can get Halo's(first cycle?) Winny, Dbol ect.

I also thought about a fast acting one for the first 3 weeks as well to get a jump start, but Dbol is to dramatic gains for me.

I gues Sus250 E4Days would hit 2 birds with one stone.

You could do a test/eq/dbol stack... You dont need the proviron, and I would defenitely grab some liquidex/arimidex.... You can still use enanthate if you'd like to do that (note if you use enanthate or cypionate you only need to wait TWO weeks before starting clomid, not 3)....
Anyway, something like :

test 400-500mg/week 1 - 10
EQ 300-400/week 1- 10
dbol 25-30mg/day 1 - 5
liquidex/arimidex .5mg EOD

would be a great first cycle, I think...

YUM

 

[BigMarc1]

Thanks the last two look good. Are Liquidex and Arimidex available in Mexico (rocky point)? I know Nolva is but heard the first two are much better.

 

[serge]

try test/deca, 300mg of each